Okay so I did skip taking pics of under watered plants and before I gave them a trim but I couldn't bare to show the world my shame~! It is day 28 I do believe and here are some pics. Also no signs of pre-flower but I really am hoping cause the stalks look so darn thick and I have been reading and watching people sex plants on youtube that have stated thickness of stem and overall height and spacing of nodes can help determine sex. I want to just do some cuttings and then flower them to tell but my basement is too cold to have them there without adding an expensive heater. Still trying to come up with a spot to try flowering cuttings and then just kill off males to make room. By then things here should warm up a bit and I can attempt to stabilize temps in basement without braking the bank.:hippy: