Quote Originally Posted by Doobee
And it appears they are getting what they want...very little mmj activity.

Then again maybe it's just me who sees thru the dog and pony shows and smoke and mirrors antics in it all.
Its always been like that here, but I thought bulding a non profit organization, was a little easyer. When you go to the bank for a bussiness loan, they ask is it for a non-profit organization. If it is they are supposed to have more opptions as far as a bussiness loan, becasue I dont think we can spend to much of our money, becasue we will not recive most or all of it back, for a very long time, if at all. We would all have a hourly wage, and benifites, but that would be about it. The land, the bussiness, would be under the non profit organization name not us, we would be employess. As far as what people would think and try to fight us out of the state, we could donate some of the yearly funds to education, not just on Marijuana, but just on computers or what ever we would find helpfull for the state. after a year of bussiness I would imagine their would be net proffits to share even after upgrdes and bills. And for security, and wiring and construction, that can be done by us, if money comes in from a bussiness loan, we will have materials, and labor could be done by us and volunteers, because at that point we would already be on the pay roll. Lights and nutes are the major cost I would think, after that the bills from light, gas, water, etc. even if were getting $15 an hour and 10 hours of overtime per week, that is no comparison to the light bill alone. a 1000W running is about $30-90 a month, put into a count of 10-20,000W on a monthly basis bills would be close to 5,000. all labor does not have to be imediate, meening we can grow while we make the store front. I recomend a in house bakery as well, nothing fancy but a stove and microwave and fridge/freezer would be needed. Wiring, and plumming, and construction, just about everything can be done by us, so all the money can be pored into the grow room. Security is some what expensive, but insurance I am sure will be costly too. As for the need to protect by violance, that should never have to happen, or the exzisting security was already a faliure. It should be like a minimum security faclity, one exit one entrance, both separated. Parking lot is completely secured from the rest of the neiborhood with a fenceabout 14 feet high and razor wire throught. the facility should have a perimiter with its own security system, the interior of the perimitor should have a parking lot, just to get in the parking lot everyone in the car needs to have a card, if not they will have to leave their cargo some where elese. the only exception should be kids, but even then they has to be a separt part of the building just for them such as a waiting room, personaly I think in the begaing even moms and dads will have to leave the kids with the baby sitters, because kids on premissis is hard on security, insurance, just about everything. My point is security could be minimal but very effective if put in the right places. Cammeras, and servelance is no problem, the biggest cost is the security officer that would be need in the stor or building its self, he would also monitor the gate and card recognition at the gate, by video, cards are rechecked at the time of buying herb, and again at depature of the facility. Also it would be nice to have a security drive buy day and night, but possibly APD could do this, because of the risk. The interior or building would have all security most bussiness have, motion, light, etc. all monitored electronicaly, buy the security company, wich they will be patched with APD, BCSO, and so on. A live in employee is a good idea but after you have all the security measures in place, it adds conflict. The building would not have to be so big, the grow rooms would be the biggest of the building, the smoke are or areas could be some what small, such as 2 rooms with 20 capacity, and they would be very cramped, as far as counters, I think it would be better to have a veiwing wall, and a one/2 person at a time lock room or vending area, where you perchase herb. the resone is to isolate all sales from the rest of the building, fi you cut down the robbery or ambush factor it will deter anyone from even wanting to robb the dispancary. I too think that the south ABQ area would be the best, because their is alot of area isolated but still close to the freeway. Also a big yard or entraace is a must, the exit could be shorter but distance coming and leaving the facility, gives the occupants the advantage, because we have controll of the perimiter more. Again the south ABQ area has alot of places like this. but with all that said, deliveries are what every one wants, I think this involves much more, but still their are ways to do it and keep the cost down. for all our perimiter and defensive needs we could use old technology such as, retractable tire spike strips, earth/ cement barriers, you want to deter cime you make it look like a prison, so getting in might be possoble, but getting out is just as hard if not harder, the building you want to support like a bank, you money handler must be well protected, and isolated from everyone eles, same as a bank or casino. everything does not have to be as extreem, but it all can be done with about 100,000 for a years time,
within that time, we need to get more cards out their becasue, 200 is just not enough for a full blown grow dispencary, I thnk a couple trips to the states hospitals, visiting cancer patiens alone will double that number with in a couple months, but we realy need chronic pain and depression on that list. thats is over half the states population right their.