After the 25 years of owning 3 each 1/2 acre residential lots in Rio Rancho and fighting year after year after year against the liberal crooked thieving asswipes insisting on eminent domain, SAD, jackass property taxes up 1500% AND the backdoor politics and deals and outright broken laws and codes by the city council add others?
I wouldn't build a pile of cow dung in RR or live there.

In a week I'll get news the property is sold and never to be built on and I am out and gone thankfully.
Or....not.
Won't know until next week at the soonest.

I am seriously looking into a grow op and am hoping it could be simular to what California has.
That is...a store front/dispensary and then with the grow in the back.

There's leased commercial buildings up in the s.e. heights and over in the Candelaria/Carlisle/University Blvd area as well.
Being the s.e. area would be less expensive overall it has possibilities.

Just off the top of my thoughts?

To set up shop as it were would cost a good $25,000+++ in grow equipment basics alone at the minimum to just get a start on.
Add money for the lease and insurance (insurance will be a bitch considering the high risk cannabis and laws suits and vandals and such).
The utilities added will be electrical contractor and others who'd have to do the code work c/o plumbing and all.
Then there is security hardware and all like cameras and alarm, lights.
Would need to be tied into APD along with on-site security.
I could/may need..live on site and be the live body for night time security.

My ball park would be about $60,000.00 just to be as ready as can be for city code inspections, board approval.
Still would need even used but acceptable retail fixtures/displays/counters/register/computer and safety and handicap code requirement needs and lit parking and such details not to be ignored.

THEN the chemicals and seeds and/or clones to even get to growing veggies to flower to trimming buds.
All the nuances like little bags and counter sales items and such.

THEN you have to have a paid doctor to take in patients for mmj cards and to sit on the board.
The training per HHS requirements and the experienced only hired help to......help.

This does not include the very basic business rules of success to have atleast 6 months of operating capitol to even start up and open the doors with.
Does not cover the atty fees and retainer and dare say an atty to take on such a politically/socially charged endeavor like a cannabis grow op/store.

There's more to consider in start-up costs as well.

Not me to be sooooo depressing and yet to think it might need nearly $100,000.00 to even get off the paper and into an open for bizzness building is very much a likely reality.

IF I had the $490K from my land then I'd go for it and chance losing $100K plus.
I will only net nearly $100K plus and so here I am and we are at the time.

Rest assured there will be law suits of a variety of causes as the political community and social establishments take on the 1st grow ops or even the first couple a few.
Figure $1000s Xs set aside for just the law suits and public relations fights.

I can only imagine what the first shot creep will cost when shot tryng to steal the pot.
Although easy to say this all is negative nonsense and none of this is reality...it is and any business undertaking requires everything to be considered and accounted for in all regards.

And yes...there will be the crime eliment to contend with.
This includes broken car glass, etc etc of employees and customers alike....which the insurance company will need to cover.
Drive by damages to the building and such and so on.
Armed robbery is a must to take into it all as well.
I'm prepared to shoot if need be.
But still....the insurance will be horendous if even viable to cover what will have to be.

Dunno just what the board feels like when we have to go to a bud doc all because out regular docs will not or cannot write up the paper for medical use.
By how they word it, the HHS board is likely inclined to see a brand new doctor as doctor shopping and thus weakens the application.

I am a Vet and the VA cannot reccomend cannabis so long as the Fed laws say no.
The VA is doing alot of behind the public view studies on mmj for the returning veterans so the near future looks mighty damn good.
I should think my need for a bud doc will be seen as a who cares.
But for some I'd think doc shopping is unfavorable.
Shouldn't be and maybe it's not...but until I can watch and listen to the board...I have only relative observations to reply on.

That doc down in T or C is who's listed for Albuquerque mmj docs.
She is the only one thus far in the game until other lower income docs join in.
Which I would think will be soon as in likely any time.

The docs have peers and patient communities to contend with and although we might think this is not right...it is and it's the way it goes regardless.

The doctor's livelihood does matter to that doctor.

All in all it is my opinion that the HHS does not especially want any of this mmj stuff.
They hindered the start and Gov Bill had to step in again and order them by law to do what they are to do.
Even then, the HHS board has made too many hoops and hurdles just so they can discourage as much as they can and get by with doing so.

Case in point......UNMH.

UNMH does medical for the city/county and state as well as Fed Medicad and such.
UNMH is where APD sends a shot up bad guy and all others who are off the streets, drunks and what have yous.
UNMH gets major big funding from the Feds and state and yet they will NOT allow ANY doctor, intern or resident doc, to reccomend medical cannabis.
WHY??
Because they cop out with the Federal laws against any cannabis.
UNMH does NOT want anything to do with cannabis nor does the state and city and those who can make things a tad but nicer will not.

Thus...why only 203-ish mmj cards when there would easily be 2000 by now.

They who dictate their own political stance are the same ones who can make or break the mmj for New Mexico.
They want to break it up and make it as difficult as they can.

And it appears they are getting what they want...very little mmj activity.

Then again maybe it's just me who sees thru the dog and pony shows and smoke and mirrors antics in it all.
















Quote Originally Posted by brokemanburied
hey doobee--maybe you should keep your land to set up a grow for the state--anyway, i would love to become a licensed producer but it seems as though you have to allready be wealthy to be able to afford everything it would take to get going---wouldn't it be nice to be able to do something you love for a living?!!! anyway, i would be interested in furthering your idea of opening a grow/dispensary--i bet we could pay ourselves pretty decent and still sell the best stuff for a couple hundreds bucks and ounce, even after the bills were paid. has the state said what the limits are on salary when it comes to (their) non-profit? the state should be happy to even recieve ONE application for producing with all of the crime in this city, much less being so close to stepping on the toes of the mexican cartel!!! also, about that doc in southern nm....will the state turn you down for a card if this doc files the paperwork for you and this was your first visit to see him/her? i'm afraid to ask my pain doc for fear of them cutting off my pain meds among other reprisals---and would the state get ahold of my pain doc if i did go see the other doc in southern nm? anyway--doobee, i would appreciate an info you could pass along to me----thanx
Doobee Reviewed by Doobee on . Why No Dispensaries in New Mexico... Are there really any more MMJ folks in New Mexico??? The latest stats are 203 mmj card holders....in the entire state. There should be at least +/-2000 in the Albuquerque Metro area alone. From what I have been able to conclude there are reasons for this disparity. First, there is so much confusion, doubts and questions left and do say many of these same are intended hurdles and blocks in place. Rating: 5