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    #1
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    I have smoked on and off for years. About 3 years ago I smoked too much and had a bad trip and vowed to never touch it again. Fast forward to a few months ago and being desperate and in pain I wanted to give it another shot. To my surprise I had no ill experiences and it was really helping my sleep and chronic pain. Well last night I tried a new batch. I smoked way too much and started to feel dizzy... then my heart started going. I have a rapid heart beat so I put on my heart monitor and it was up to 190 beats a minute (I am a 98lb, 5'2 female mind you) My throat started feeling tight and I felt like I was going to pass out at any moment... my husband put some cold water on me and I focused on bringing my heart down which I got down to 130 and then down to 100 but I still felt like i was dying. Then the nausea and feeling like I had a fever came on... My mind started going thinking maybe my ultram er (extended release ultram) maybe released too much medicine in my system and that i was overdosing on that because I know it is impossible to overdose on marijuana... I guess my question is... should I give it a few days before I smoke again?? I am concerned because of my heart and it getting that high again. I was told my heart should never get above 160 and if it did to go to the ER because i could go into cardiac arrest. Do you all think it would be okay to just take 1-2 hits? I dont think the stuff is that good. It is all compressed together and looks like shit (compared to the homegrown chronic i had a week ago) and because of that I thought I had to smoke a lot of it... I feel like such an idiot and not to mention irresponsible... I really need some reassurance.
    mrsm06 Reviewed by mrsm06 on . help please I have smoked on and off for years. About 3 years ago I smoked too much and had a bad trip and vowed to never touch it again. Fast forward to a few months ago and being desperate and in pain I wanted to give it another shot. To my surprise I had no ill experiences and it was really helping my sleep and chronic pain. Well last night I tried a new batch. I smoked way too much and started to feel dizzy... then my heart started going. I have a rapid heart beat so I put on my heart monitor and it Rating: 5

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    #2
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    I know what your talking about. You definitely smoked to much and had a panic attack. It is also likely that you never ate much before you smoked? Herb lowers blood sugar quit a bit and that what gives some people the shakes and just a crappy feeling.(search low blood sugar symptoms).

    My thread on another forum should answer most of you questions:

    Guide to Dealing with Anxiety/Panic Attacks, and Paranoia - Grasscity.com Forums

    I would wait a couple days just to settle your nerves, but relax, it was nothing serious, a lot of people including myself have experienced exactly what you described. One time I accidentally vaped to much, got panicky, was shivering, heart rate at 190, high blood pressure, pale skin, tight dry throat, disorientated, etc.

    Next time, eat a whole meal an hour before you smoke and stay hydrated. If it happens again, eat something sugary(oj juice works great) and do some slow, regular breathing.

    Why can't your heart rate go above 160? Is there a problem with it?

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    #3
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    A little of what you like is good for you, to much of a good thing is not good for you.:smokin:

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    #4
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    Careful with the schwag looking bud... Some of the best smoke I've had looked a lot like the some of the worst... couple puffs at a time and easy dose it:jointsmile:

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    #5
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    this might not mean much to you unless your a legal med user in California or have some other safe access but from what I've read you might want to avoid sativa strains, which stimulate, and stay more with indica strains, which tend to relax more. :greenthumb:

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    #6
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    No way! it does not make you an idot by any means. someone i am related to smokes and has heart problems, he can get away with it im sure you can. Im feeling like maybe you should just smoke a bowl and relax, i think you might be trying to smoke too much at one time, if your doing it for the pain, there is no need to get so messed up i would think. Hope i could help somewhat, oh, and yes you can smoke again, if you trip one night it dont mean you will the next. (i know that from experiance.)
    Happy Smoke and good
    luck to you,
    Stonermom18

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    #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsm06
    I have smoked on and off for years. About 3 years ago I smoked too much and had a bad trip and vowed to never touch it again. Fast forward to a few months ago and being desperate and in pain I wanted to give it another shot. To my surprise I had no ill experiences and it was really helping my sleep and chronic pain. Well last night I tried a new batch. I smoked way too much and started to feel dizzy... then my heart started going. I have a rapid heart beat so I put on my heart monitor and it was up to 190 beats a minute (I am a 98lb, 5'2 female mind you) My throat started feeling tight and I felt like I was going to pass out at any moment... my husband put some cold water on me and I focused on bringing my heart down which I got down to 130 and then down to 100 but I still felt like i was dying. Then the nausea and feeling like I had a fever came on... My mind started going thinking maybe my ultram er (extended release ultram) maybe released too much medicine in my system and that i was overdosing on that because I know it is impossible to overdose on marijuana... I guess my question is... should I give it a few days before I smoke again?? I am concerned because of my heart and it getting that high again. I was told my heart should never get above 160 and if it did to go to the ER because i could go into cardiac arrest. Do you all think it would be okay to just take 1-2 hits? I dont think the stuff is that good. It is all compressed together and looks like shit (compared to the homegrown chronic i had a week ago) and because of that I thought I had to smoke a lot of it... I feel like such an idiot and not to mention irresponsible... I really need some reassurance.
    such incidences can be solved two ways:

    A) consistent and constant exposure to a regular amount of cannabis will result in some mental and physical tolerances, particularly the dizzyness and particularly paranoia in most cases.
    B) reduced intake spread out over longer periods throughout the pain relief day for short period exposure.. this allows your body to slowly acclimate over a short period of time and stops you from becoming 'high' without being in control of it.

    It's an easy problem to solve, I don't think you smoke enough to have worked this out. I have )

    Hope this helps.


    Peace,
    Denial

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    Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
    such incidences can be solved two ways:

    A) consistent and constant exposure to a regular amount of cannabis will result in some mental and physical tolerances, particularly the dizzyness and particularly paranoia in most cases.
    B) reduced intake spread out over longer periods throughout the pain relief day for short period exposure.. this allows your body to slowly acclimate over a short period of time and stops you from becoming 'high' without being in control of it.

    It's an easy problem to solve, I don't think you smoke enough to have worked this out. I have )

    Hope this helps.


    Peace,
    Denial

    I'm agreeing with Denial.


    Ive been using MMJ since nov 05 for pain from fibromyalgia and related.

    At first I was stoning in the evening/night to go to sleep. (Yes! I've had those weird woozies and you have just told me why I had panic attacks last month!)

    Then I'd have to deal with the hangover the next morning.

    I now smoke a couple of puffs from a very small pipe with my tea or coffee in the morning, and starts my pain relief for the day.

    I now do medibles -- keepin it simple, I make canna chocolate and occasionally medicated brownie bites (mini-muffin sized, kept in freezer, dose 1-2).

    Learning to dose with medibles is difficult at first, and each batch can have different results.

    start small on a medible dose -- 1/2 brownie (mini-muffin) and wait for at least 2 hours. It takes that long (longer in some people) for the cannabinoids to peak in the system. at this point I'll take another "dose" to keep it going.

    with medibles, once you get the hang of it, you can remain pain-free (or much relieved) all day without feeling stoned or high.

    I'll take a puff now and then even when using medibles. smoking/vaping has an onset of 5-15 minutes, peaks quickly then dies out, tapers off. Great for immediate relief.


    Good luck.
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    #9
    Junior Member

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    thanks guys! I am starting to get it down... I take 1 hit wait 15 minutes then take another if i need to... however I find the most releif when I take 1 hit per hour and like 2 hits right before i go to sleep to help me fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer... I do believe when my heart rate goes up I just start to panic and its just a vicious cycle!

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    #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsm06
    its just a vicious cycle!
    thats exactly how intent and perception work (they are in feedback)..

    now you know that you can be what's known as 'self aware' - a lot can be said for both addiction, and the reasons why the government doesn't want cannabis legalised. Mind altering drugs defeat rational thought yes.. but with this foreknowledge they can teach us to master it

    I only smoke cannabis though, seems enough for me. good luck with it!!

    peace, :jointsmile:
    Denial

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