hey dt....ive been smoking what my friend says is both phenos of the ssh....the lemon pheno is the shorter of the two....the mango or pineapple pheno takes 11 wks...personally i thought the lemon pheno got you higher but the mango pheno kept you there longer....both were very good....ive been smoking both for about 3 weeks now and i will say they are both worth the money....except for the fact that i just bought a 1/4 lb of the black haze for 750 and 3 zips of the ssh cost me 725 and i think the blacks are a better high and longer....i think the ww cut i just got is about as good as both but have of the time.....sorry for the rant....high on haze...lol!stay safe brotha.....:thumbsup: