Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
I see what you are saying... mind altering drugs are exactly that, mind altering.
Geee...no shit...?
You talk as if casual use is all that happens with decrimninalization or legalization. I'm saying it's a foolish idea to legalize 'em.

Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
A new set of variables apply. I think what you are trying to say is that drug users are irresponsible, and it would be very dangerous to let them to be members of society.
Drug addicts, as a general rule...Irresponsible, untrustworthy, and very poor at making rational decisions. I don't think we need to remove them from society, but definatelly restrict their behaviors while in society.
Know what happens to your mind when you've been up for 10 days? Do you know the rage, when your friend steals the last line from your bindle? Have you ever seen a friend nod-off mid-sentance while driving you to the grocery store? Have you ever had your kids babysitter show up ready to paint the garage, fix the microwave, and offer to re-organize your junk closet? Have you ever had your designated driver at the party look up from the comode he's throwing-up into...and telling you he's still ok to drive...?
These are the folks whose actions you defend? Pitiful.

Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
Does this include yourself?
No, as I'm not a doped-up fuckhead looking to avoid live on life's terms, while putting other's lives and freedoms at risk. I have a reality-based disdain for those that choose to put my family at risk, just to have the personal freedom to have a bad trip while I'm driving my kids home from school. Or to shoot my wife while she's taking out the trash because my neighbor thinks she's a shadow-monster, bent on stealing their stash.
Liars, thieves and fucked-up in the head, so no...I don't hold myself in the same class as the lowlife addicts in society. I respect no active addict. Don't like it...? Tough shit. Know what happens when you sober-up an addict car thief...? You have a sober car thief.

Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
I think my point here is if you took away money there would still be
A) Alcoholism
B) Violent Alcoholism
C) Crime as a result of Alcoholism
D) Drug Addict use
E) significantly reduced crime as a result of drug use
Legalize drugs, there would be:
A) Systemic drug addiction.
B) Violent drug addiction.
C) Violent crime as a mechanism to get more money for drugs.
D) Increase in home violence and drug-induced psychosis.
E) Significant increase in prisons being built to accomodate those that obviously shouldn't be on the streets.

Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
This is mainly due to the fact that Alcohol is a particularly toxic drug. Unlike most or many of the psychoactives, Alcohol can cause paranoia, violence, and the breakdown of our supposed "values".
Are you stoned, or just stupid? That is one of the most blindly immature things I've ever read in here. Obviously you've never been to an AA or NA meeting. You want a real grip on what drugs do to ones family, friend, employees and employers...? Go to a Narcanon or Al-Anon meeting. Also..tell me more about values.

Do you think legalizing it would make it easier for the poor and downtrodden to acquire the drugs? Will they get off of welfare, get a job, just to partake? No. They'll continue to rob, steal and kill, just like now.

Quote Originally Posted by denialisback
A happy addict is not only quiet, but has not a worry in the world. heh
I guess...if you can find a happy addict, there is a possibility he'll be quiet. Kinda hard to have a care in the world, when you're doing drugs in back-alleys to remove those cares.
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