There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican

[DdC222]

There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican
Thursday, February 26, 2009

Oh sure, there were the Crusades, the Inquisition, the destruction of science (Galileo), silence during the Holocaust, coverup of pedophiles, and the direct responsibility for millions of deaths to AIDS due to opposing safe sex practices (particularly in third world countries).

But NO, that's not nearly enough for the Vatican. Surely there's more evil that they can promote, more people they can kill in the name of God the Pope.

Oh yes, how about drug users. Let's kill some of them, too.

You see, the United States finally, finally, finally, came to its senses and the Obama administration sent a new message through its representatives to the United Nations that at least needle exchange as a harm reduction approach would be accepted. While that was not nearly all that was needed, it was at least an opening, and even the most rabid global drug warriors agreed that needle exchange was now a sure thing to be included in the new global drug policy.

But then, guess who intercedes?

The Vatican has been accused of putting the lives of thousands at risk by attempting to influence UN drugs policy on the eve of a major international declaration.

The Vatican's objection to "harm reduction" strategies, such as needle exchange schemes, has ignited a fierce debate between the US and the EU over how drugs should be tackled.

A new UN declaration of intent is due to be signed in Vienna on 11 March. However, there are major disagreements between member countries over whether a commitment to "harm reduction" should be included in the document, which is published every 10 years.

Now the Vatican has issued a statement that claims that using drugs is "anti-life" and "so-called harm reduction leads to liberalisation of the use of drugs". The Vatican's last-minute intervention appears to have led to Italy withdrawing from the EU consensus on the issue and thrown the talks over the declaration into confusion. [Guardian, UK]

Now, just to be clear, is there any doubt as to the actual truth? No.

Seven federally funded studies during the 1990s, conducted by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the CDC and the National Academy of Sciences among others, all reached similar conclusions that NEPs work in reducing HIV's spread among IV drug users, their partners and children, and that they do not encourage increased drug use. Furthermore, a more recent study by the World Health Organization compiled the results of over 200 such reports from around the world and came to the same conclusions. [emphasis added]

The Vatican knows this, and yet they oppose needle exchange. Dr. William Martin, Professor Emeritus of Religion and Public Policy at Rice University says:

When the science is clear, when we know that something will help save lives and choose not to do it that is not only pigheaded, it is immoral.

There is no doubt that the Vatican is immoral.

I am no stranger to spirituality. I was raised in church (my father is a minister). But religion does not own, beget, nor bestow morality. And some of the most moral people I've known are atheists.

In fact, when a group of people claim to be the holders of religious truth and use that ill-gotten power for destruction rather than for the good of the people, then they are terrorists, whether they reside in caves in Pakistan, or high in the Holy See.

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1814



Its in Rome,
Fascist Homeland's Largest Corporation is doing Fascist things? Will blunders ever cease? I thought all the druggies fell off the flat earth? Seems the people are finding God without the Priests and ti-things. Tax dodgers not paying for the poverty. Aborting babies spraying cotton with poisons not used on Hemp or Ganja. Oil wars vs Bio mass and diesel, plastic from carbohydrates same as hydrocarbon fossil fools. Starving babies and illegal food. Addiction is a sin and the dying shouldn't grin. What would the kids think of the message? This is your egg... This is your egg splattered in a frying pan...
Any Questions? Don't ask...

O.N.D.C.Pope - Cannabis Culture Forums

Cathoholics are just at it longer. All religion is the opiate of the masses. Pat Robotson or Jerry Fallswell or the hundreds of other over zealous idiots. Reefer mad loonies or religious judges and rehabs are all in conflict with the Constitution. All dependent on the corporate sponsor or willing widows mite. Racist Southern Baptists or Jim Jones wingnuts. Most lil old ladies sending their SS checks, having their goiters removed via satellite and the Fortune 700 Club. Ancient Temple Hashish Incense! Did Jesus Inhale? 20 million arrested for possession, inhaling or not. Once again I find myself in agreement with the stoner Forefathers. - DdC

WomansWackyVengeanceUnion

"The United States is in no way founded upon the Christian religion"
-- George Washington & John Adams,
in a diplomatic message to Malta.

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"This would be the best of all possible worlds,
if there were no religion in it."
-- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

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"The Bible is not my book,
and Christianity is not my religion.
I could never give assent to the long,
complicated statements of Christian dogma."
-- Abraham Lincoln

Christian Extremism and Terrorism In History

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson



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"In some districts, inhabited by Latin Americans, Filipinos, Spaniards and Negroes, half the violent crimes are attributed to marijuana craze. Dr. Lee Rice of San Antonio reports that eighty per cent of all the murders committed by Mexicans are done while the killers are drugged by marijuana."
The Christian Century (newspaper) - 1938

Souder-Higher-Ed-Ax

"Neither the trappings of robes, nor temples of stone, nor a fixed liturgy, nor an extensive literature or history is required to meet the test of beliefs cognizable under the Constitution as religious. So far as our law is concerned, one person's religious beliefs held for one day are presumptively entitled to the same protection as the beliefs of millions which have been shared for thousands of years."
-- Judge Jack Weinstein, New York State, 1977

DdC222 Reviewed by DdC222 on 02-28-2009. There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican Thursday, February 26, 2009 Oh sure, there were the Crusades, the Inquisition, the destruction of science (Galileo), silence during the Holocaust, coverup of pedophiles, and the direct responsibility for millions of deaths to AIDS due to opposing safe sex practices (particularly in third world countries). But NO, that's not nearly enough for the Vatican. Surely there's more evil that they can promote, more people they can kill in Rating: 5

[Dutch Pimp]

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[painretreat]

Hey Dutch thanks for the chuckle!! can't rep it to you!!:thumbsup:

[leadmagnet]

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I think you are the king of the gifs around here. I can't keep my eyes off those tits.

[Dutch Pimp]

I wanted these...but they wouldn't fit...

[killerweed420]

Praise the lord, kill the sinners

[moshmonkey]

the direct responsibility for millions of deaths to AIDS due to opposing safe sex practices (particularly in third world countries).

thats retarded, the catholic church preaches chastity, if people decide not to follow that and have sex protected or not its their own responsibilty, blaming the church for that is like blaming the drug dealer for someone taking drugs.

[Doobee]

Such diarrhea out of the mouth of a blind, lost soul of a bigot.

Your hate for God is clear.

I'm not a Catholic nor do I subcribe to the fakes who troll for dollars in the name of Jesus Christ.

But I am a born again Christian who does have the Truth and the Truth will set you free.

While I could not give a rat's ass for your approval or insults...I do take it seriously when the likes of you come along and spew lies and hate, all the while feeling soooo superior and display such arrogance as to claim God is a lie.

Wallar in your misery all you wish bigot.

You are known for the company you keep and the enemies you make....stench and all.

There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican
Thursday, February 26, 2009

Oh sure, there were the Crusades, the Inquisition, the destruction of science (Galileo), silence during the Holocaust, coverup of pedophiles, and the direct responsibility for millions of deaths to AIDS due to opposing safe sex practices (particularly in third world countries).

But NO, that's not nearly enough for the Vatican. Surely there's more evil that they can promote, more people they can kill in the name of God the Pope.

Oh yes, how about drug users. Let's kill some of them, too.

You see, the United States finally, finally, finally, came to its senses and the Obama administration sent a new message through its representatives to the United Nations that at least needle exchange as a harm reduction approach would be accepted. While that was not nearly all that was needed, it was at least an opening, and even the most rabid global drug warriors agreed that needle exchange was now a sure thing to be included in the new global drug policy.

But then, guess who intercedes?

The Vatican has been accused of putting the lives of thousands at risk by attempting to influence UN drugs policy on the eve of a major international declaration.

The Vatican's objection to "harm reduction" strategies, such as needle exchange schemes, has ignited a fierce debate between the US and the EU over how drugs should be tackled.

A new UN declaration of intent is due to be signed in Vienna on 11 March. However, there are major disagreements between member countries over whether a commitment to "harm reduction" should be included in the document, which is published every 10 years.

Now the Vatican has issued a statement that claims that using drugs is "anti-life" and "so-called harm reduction leads to liberalisation of the use of drugs". The Vatican's last-minute intervention appears to have led to Italy withdrawing from the EU consensus on the issue and thrown the talks over the declaration into confusion. [Guardian, UK]

Now, just to be clear, is there any doubt as to the actual truth? No.

Seven federally funded studies during the 1990s, conducted by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the CDC and the National Academy of Sciences among others, all reached similar conclusions that NEPs work in reducing HIV's spread among IV drug users, their partners and children, and that they do not encourage increased drug use. Furthermore, a more recent study by the World Health Organization compiled the results of over 200 such reports from around the world and came to the same conclusions. [emphasis added]

The Vatican knows this, and yet they oppose needle exchange. Dr. William Martin, Professor Emeritus of Religion and Public Policy at Rice University says:

When the science is clear, when we know that something will help save lives and choose not to do it that is not only pigheaded, it is immoral.

There is no doubt that the Vatican is immoral.

I am no stranger to spirituality. I was raised in church (my father is a minister). But religion does not own, beget, nor bestow morality. And some of the most moral people I've known are atheists.

In fact, when a group of people claim to be the holders of religious truth and use that ill-gotten power for destruction rather than for the good of the people, then they are terrorists, whether they reside in caves in Pakistan, or high in the Holy See.

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1814



Its in Rome,
Fascist Homeland's Largest Corporation is doing Fascist things? Will blunders ever cease? I thought all the druggies fell off the flat earth? Seems the people are finding God without the Priests and ti-things. Tax dodgers not paying for the poverty. Aborting babies spraying cotton with poisons not used on Hemp or Ganja. Oil wars vs Bio mass and diesel, plastic from carbohydrates same as hydrocarbon fossil fools. Starving babies and illegal food. Addiction is a sin and the dying shouldn't grin. What would the kids think of the message? This is your egg... This is your egg splattered in a frying pan...
Any Questions? Don't ask...

O.N.D.C.Pope - Cannabis Culture Forums

Cathoholics are just at it longer. All religion is the opiate of the masses. Pat Robotson or Jerry Fallswell or the hundreds of other over zealous idiots. Reefer mad loonies or religious judges and rehabs are all in conflict with the Constitution. All dependent on the corporate sponsor or willing widows mite. Racist Southern Baptists or Jim Jones wingnuts. Most lil old ladies sending their SS checks, having their goiters removed via satellite and the Fortune 700 Club. Ancient Temple Hashish Incense! Did Jesus Inhale? 20 million arrested for possession, inhaling or not. Once again I find myself in agreement with the stoner Forefathers. - DdC

WomansWackyVengeanceUnion

"The United States is in no way founded upon the Christian religion"
-- George Washington & John Adams,
in a diplomatic message to Malta.

Demonizing Religionists

"This would be the best of all possible worlds,
if there were no religion in it."
-- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

Witch hunts and the war on weed 20 Jun, 2002
The persecution of "witches" was really a war on sacred plants that continues today.

"The Bible is not my book,
and Christianity is not my religion.
I could never give assent to the long,
complicated statements of Christian dogma."
-- Abraham Lincoln

Christian Extremism and Terrorism In History

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson



Teddy Kennedy's Cannabis Brain Tumor Cure
Teddy Kennedy and The Ultimate Tragedy of Liberalism.
His Brain Tumor Is of the Type That Cannabis Might Cure.
Suppressed Research May Claim Another Drug War Victim.
Posted by Richard Cowan on 2008-05-20 16:20:00

Faith-Based Rehabilitation

'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'

"In some districts, inhabited by Latin Americans, Filipinos, Spaniards and Negroes, half the violent crimes are attributed to marijuana craze. Dr. Lee Rice of San Antonio reports that eighty per cent of all the murders committed by Mexicans are done while the killers are drugged by marijuana."
The Christian Century (newspaper) - 1938

Souder-Higher-Ed-Ax

"Neither the trappings of robes, nor temples of stone, nor a fixed liturgy, nor an extensive literature or history is required to meet the test of beliefs cognizable under the Constitution as religious. So far as our law is concerned, one person's religious beliefs held for one day are presumptively entitled to the same protection as the beliefs of millions which have been shared for thousands of years."
-- Judge Jack Weinstein, New York State, 1977

[DdC222]

1. you sir are a moron.
2. I didn't write it so spew your dribble there.
3. Religion is of humans, God has no respect for humans,
and even less for moron liars passing false judgements.
If you have nothing to say then why embarrass yourself when I take this to antiDARE class the kids laugh at you and your rusty butt buddy. You offer no alternative or even a decent argument. Why throw away what little reputation you have left? Oh I answered that, you sir are a moron.

Big Bucks in forced Faith-Based Rehabilitation
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Is anybody surprised that a White house ruled by the likes of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney would engage in manipulation of religionâ??or anything else? I recall the reflections of the first head of the faith-based program office, John Dilulio, who left after six months, and later cited the disconnects between the White House's faith-based office and the domestic policy advisors, referring to them as â??Mayberry Machiavellians.â?�

(Guv W) Bush. Religious drug treatment in Texas by Hanna Rosin
US TX: George W Bush: The Record In Texas
CORPUS CHRISTI, Tex. 05 May 2000

Over the door of one church-based drug treatment center in Houston, a sign printed in foot-high letters announces: "Drug Addiction Is NOT a Disease. It's a Sin." At another, clients pass by a poster of an addict in a hospital bed, ripping IV tubes out of his arms and throwing his pills in the garbage. An angel hovers nearby, offering her protection from this plague of prescriptions.

And at a Christian young adult home in Corpus Christi, police recently took the unusual step of arresting a supervisor after teenagers complained that they were beaten and roped to a bed, all in the name of Christian discipline. More arrests are anticipated, authorities say.

These are some of the results--expected and unexpected--of Gov. George W. Bush's "bold new experiment in welfare reform." With his conviction that religious groups can transform lives in ways government can't, Bush sponsored laws in 1997 that allow churches to provide social services their own way, outside the intrusive glare of the state.

The new laws exempted faith-based drug treatment programs from all state health and safety regulations followed by their secular counterparts, a list contained in a rule book as thick as a Russian novel that covers every detail from fire detectors to frayed carpets. Counselors in religious treatment programs now may skip the criminal background checks and hundreds of hours of training required of their state-licensed peers.

Faith-based groups that provide child care or operate homes for troubled youths can opt out of state inspections and choose to be regulated by a Christian child care agency approved by the state.

Since their inception, the new rules have been criticized by traditional caretakers, who worry that Bush has placed too little emphasis on holding religious groups accountable, and too much on the notion that faith alone can heal addiction and delinquency--despite decades of research to the contrary.

Knowing this, they then select it as puppet president?
I wonder if Americans even want freedom sometimes.
Seem awful eager to give it away... To support the prez.

Plagued by Moral Relativism
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We spent the 4th firing off doobies! Oooo pretty one.

These warped ONDCP and state somedrug Czars are not Americans.
They're Fascists. As soon as we deal with it, Ganja won't be outlawed and plea bargain forced treatment will be listed as kidnapping and psychological rape.

Instead of polluting the air with gunsmoke and wasting fossil fools choices finding a parking space with tens of millions of other crude oil plastic flag spastics. Write a very concerned letter to your idiot in office.

Treatment is expensive or profitable depending on what side of the issue you stand. Disease, contrary to Walters and Bush... Is not from sin. Addiction is a disease. Walters Bush are from sin. Their sin acumulated enough evil to create D.E.A.th to hover over head,
keeping us silent and in darkness.

[socialistpete]

While I could not give a rat's ass for your approval or insults...I do take it seriously when the likes of you come along and spew lies and hate, all the while feeling soooo superior and display such arrogance as to claim God is a lie.

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How about you do us a favor and prove god exists, or at least show us where in secular history there is even more than a mention of Jesus Christ. Because there aren't any that's why, he is only mentioned by one historian through out time and he is a proven unreliable source. The only other talk of Jesus is from your beloved book that a bunch of ruling men put together, not some great power from above.