JaJoJo's First Grow (Help Appreciated)

[denialisback]

In fact, Heres a picture of my setup and 2 whitewidow plants on the combo, hope this helps ya man! :thumbsup:

Peace,
denial

denialisback Reviewed by denialisback on 03-01-2009. JaJoJo's First Grow (Help Appreciated) Hello all im JaJoJo ive been lurkin for awhile absorbing knowledge from the expertise of other growers so i now feel its time to start my grow log. So if you enjoy CFL grows "Turn On Tune In An Drop Out". Ok so im starting with 4 23watt (100watt equivelant) CFLs MG potting soil all pots contain 30% perlite 70% soil. Temps stay steady at 75F and humidity stays steady at 60 i just transplanted today. In the pics you'll see the best plant in the back, the next best to the right, and the last three Rating: 5

[denialisback]

Just wanted to add I had exactly the same problems with my allmix bioizz soil. at about hmm 4 weeks actually, sound familiar? Be careful how much water you're giving them it seems to activate nutes in the soil and take them to the roots.. Flush might work but if you dont do it thoroughly or have a lot of nutes it could make matters worse

Peace,
Denial

[jajojo]

hey denial thanks for all the advice your plants are lookin awesome bro as for that soil im pretty sure that was the problem i flushed twice then re-potted with extra perlite and organic soil no pre-mixed nutes and they all are now perkin back up and their skunky smell has come back to im very happy im only using four 26 watt (100watt equivelant) 2700k CFLs but before i induce flowering i will be getting four more 6500k CFLs for a wider spectrum and more lumens im hoping 8 CFLs will be sufficient enough for possibly all 5 plants IF their all female but i dont get my hopes up i hear the ratio is about 50/50 so 2-3 out of 5 is kool with me lol

[denialisback]

hey denial thanks for all the advice your plants are lookin awesome bro as for that soil im pretty sure that was the problem i flushed twice then re-potted with extra perlite and organic soil no pre-mixed nutes and they all are now perkin back up and their skunky smell has come back to im very happy im only using four 26 watt (100watt equivelant) 2700k CFLs but before i induce flowering i will be getting four more 6500k CFLs for a wider spectrum and more lumens im hoping 8 CFLs will be sufficient enough for possibly all 5 plants IF their all female but i dont get my hopes up i hear the ratio is about 50/50 so 2-3 out of 5 is kool with me lol

hey well, 10k CFL lumens should be enough for 4 plants, not sure about 5 though hehe. you're probably close to 10k so looking good man.. I've been thinking about buying 100 20W CFLs between 2k - 4k - 7k ..

I hate HIDS because they are hot to control temp due to the low surface area.. if you have any thoughts on that im all ears hehe

Peace,
Denial

[jajojo]

IMO HIDs lights are good to grow with if a have a decent are to grow in. A friend of mine was using something similar to a HID i believe it was a metal halide and it brought temps in his grow room up to 110F. I prefer CFLs just for the low heat factor and it allowing you to grow in a very small area

[denialisback]

IMO HIDs lights are good to grow with if a have a decent are to grow in. A friend of mine was using something similar to a HID i believe it was a metal halide and it brought temps in his grow room up to 110F. I prefer CFLs just for the low heat factor and it allowing you to grow in a very small area

I couldn't agree with this synopsis any more.. Really 1000Watts of CFL would be more managable to cool than 1000Watts of HID ANY DAY? Someone want to disagree? hit me up 'yo

yah thinking about this a minute and i've decided 100x the surface area @ 1000Watt will always have a way better thermal co-efficient for heat dissipation heh... i.e. steady and slowly , not rapid and low surface.. definately. I'm all CFL so... yeah.. maybe a 100W HPS would be an idea for small boxes for flowering, other than that i think CFL is fine, I'd be inclined to say in fact 500W CFL + 100W HID could produce equal harvests to a 600 HID, i'm sure theres research that disproves that, but i know theres also research that the plants need a broad spectrum of wavelengths but not too much or too little of just one... So one would hope the HID spectrum would add enough for flowering to make CFL the one and truly _best_ way to grow heh. Truly think this is possible sooner than we think!



Peace,
Denial

[bigtopsfinn]

My space is pretty small, 22.5" x 22.5" base, and 67.5" tall, and I can run a 400w hps. However, I need a cooltube and a tube fan to do it. I've been thinking about even adding a couple supplemental cfl's, but they are pretty expensive here... Don't be afraid of the hps, you just need the proper ventilation!

[denialisback]

My space is pretty small, 22.5" x 22.5" base, and 67.5" tall, and I can run a 400w hps. However, I need a cooltube and a tube fan to do it. I've been thinking about even adding a couple supplemental cfl's, but they are pretty expensive here... Don't be afraid of the hps, you just need the proper ventilation!

*money* for proper ventilation and a airtight enclosure. and yes cooltube lol all the things i need/want


peace,
Denial

[bigtopsfinn]

Yea true, little different situation for me i guess, cuz i can get a setup like mine for â?¬270 (light, cooltube w/reflector, 129 cfm fan and carbon filter), which is like $350... but 23w cfls are like â?¬12, while a full hps kit is 69â?¬. It's a good investment though, even if you end up paying like $500, you can get that back 2-fold when you harvest (at least pays itself)

[denialisback]

Yea true, little different situation for me i guess, cuz i can get a setup like mine for â?¬270 (light, cooltube w/reflector, 129 cfm fan and carbon filter), which is like $350... but 23w cfls are like â?¬12, while a full hps kit is 69â?¬. It's a good investment though, even if you end up paying like $500, you can get that back 2-fold when you harvest (at least pays itself)

absolutely I got a 400W HID HPS Grolux lamp but its just too damn hot to cool with my 129cfm to be honest.. I need to invest better money/time in an enclosure for that and get a 220cfm or so, downgrade to 200W which im considering strongly. AND/OR cooltube..sigh.. stick with CFL i tell myself. My grow is going pretty good so far...

In CFL's defense my 1 month old plants are doing great... attatch a picture ,
using 1 x 125W 2400k 1x 125W 7200k and 1x23W 4000k,

Peace,
Denial