philosphical question here

[juggalo420]

is a persons mind and being connected indefinetly to his memories and experiences even to the point of death, or can a person be the same person through some other sort of being even if he has no memory of his past. im thinking of reincarnation, like if a person were to die and be reborn could they be the same person without having the memories from their past life. i guess the real question is what constitutes what an individual is, is it his memories and past experiences or something tottaly different?


i dont believe in reincarnation but i was just reading an artical about it and i thought of this question, i thought id post it here as opposed to spirituality board just to try an get a larger response.

juggalo420 Reviewed by juggalo420 on 03-19-2005. philosphical question here is a persons mind and being connected indefinetly to his memories and experiences even to the point of death, or can a person be the same person through some other sort of being even if he has no memory of his past. im thinking of reincarnation, like if a person were to die and be reborn could they be the same person without having the memories from their past life. i guess the real question is what constitutes what an individual is, is it his memories and past experiences or something tottaly Rating: 5

[ermitonto]

What if there is only one consciousness? That is, while things appear to be living simultaneously, all of our lives are a single entity experiencing the life of each organism that ever existed or will exist sequentially, and that currently it is in the middle of my life (or from your perspective in my experiential past or future, your life).

[juggalo420]

What if there is only one consciousness? That is, while things appear to be living simultaneously, all of our lives are a single entity experiencing the life of each organism that ever existed or will exist sequentially, and that currently it is in the middle of my life (or from your perspective in my experiential past or future, your life).

yet, that would also mean the individual is dispensible, and in real world terms what is this single being, where is it, whats it purpose? also where when did this being form, does it include cro-magnum and neanderthal man or just modern homo-sapien, if only the later why? does this only include human life or the animal kingdom also? what is the purpose of the individual then if we are not unique (if its just for experience, experience for what purpose), what is the purpose of this single entity, is it consciece of itself?

[Rarrr]

The thing that makes me doubt reincarnation is the fact that poultations will incrase and decrease. So what will happen to the souls that are left out when the population decreases, in limbo until a space becomes available? I doubt if you could retain any knowledge or memory after death otherwise youd think someone on this planet would remember his/her past life but mayb we travel to a new dimension when we die and this is just a test to get into a higher plain of existance. If there is a even is a soul im pretty sure itd retain nothing (or maybe a plain between life existance) but we can never tell until the day comes....

[poorman3]

if you believe in reincarnation, i think your just scared!

[larry]

There is no future

There is only past and present that exist in reality.

[ermitonto]

yet, that would also mean the individual is dispensible, and in real world terms what is this single being, where is it, whats it purpose? also where when did this being form, does it include cro-magnum and neanderthal man or just modern homo-sapien, if only the later why? does this only include human life or the animal kingdom also? what is the purpose of the individual then if we are not unique (if its just for experience, experience for what purpose), what is the purpose of this single entity, is it consciece of itself?

Well, I was thinking of something that would experience the lives of every living thing that has ever attained consciousness. But who could say that it was one entity, if no memories could pass from one life to the next? Personally, I believe your experience just ends when you die. There is no more you, and you can't care because there's no you to care about the fact that you're dead.

[juggalo420]

There is no future

There is only past and present that exist in reality.

i dont see how the past exsists in any tangible way except in memory and memory is often flawed, while scars and such may reveal the past once did exist it doesnt show it currently exsists.

the past and future dont exsist, one has ended and the other yet to come, and the present doesnt exist because once you try to consentrate on it it becomes the past and therefor ceasess to be, so nothing exsists in, time isnt real.

^just a thought

[bum]

consider this:

tabula rasa (i think)... blank slate. we are born empty, experiencing through our senses. everything we have recorded has created "us". there is only one moment, no past or future, which are only created in our mind. memories are just logs of sensory experience.

if you want to approach it assuming reincarnation is true, i would be swayed to believe that we have a small consciousness that moves from body to body, and the brain records experience and memory. reincarnation maybe isn't so personal. it's a scoop of the river moved from cup to cup. you're nobody. we are all purely identical, only our vessels and environment creates the "individual".

[BlastedTOtheSKY]

To answer your question...if a person can be the same person(have the same personality) or be a diff person if they cant remember their whole lifes memories.....

I would say No, because a persons memories effect the way a persons thinking becuase memories are experiences, learning and shit like that...

Example, if a persons life consists of extreme negativity, than the person has only seen negative shit and will act negative....
But, if the persons life consists of flawless positive memories, then the person will definetly, for sure have a different personality, and be a very diff. person, then the person who had only negative memories....