ive always though of the bay area as beng more "central cal" ,since its more twards the center of the state. personally, ive always thought of norcal being from arco arena to the oregon border....

i wish they would have done what they talked about years ago and split cal into 3 sections, socal,cen tral and norcal. 3 different states. all of the treehuggin greenies could all head down to either central or socal and leave us norcalians alone...