Quote Originally Posted by yokinazu
ok you know what i like is the fact that people seem to beleive here that capitlism is the greastest form of society we can have, how can one degrade to socialism? socialism is NO worse or NO better than captilism. the problem lies with the propaganda that has be fed to us thru years of conditioning. it not the form of govt that is bad but those who are in charge. socialism can be a effective form of govt so long as those in charge do not try to " keep the man down" and are only concerned with their own ends.

i could point out the many problems with socialism but i could give the same number just differant problems for capilism, feudalism, communism, imperialism, facisism, etc., etc.
i'm a complete free market/capitalism guy, but i agree with you. i think socialism does work in certain places. for example, france couldn't go to capitalism right now, the people would riot. i think we should give more power to the states and each state can decide its own economy. if one state wants socialism, they can have it, if another wants capitalism they can have it. it isn't really up to the system for how productive a people are, but more up to the people themselves.