Even a sober stoner has to eat so ill hit you guys up later thanks for all the advice and for everyone else that checks out this thread please please leave comments ur ideas anything no offenses taken i cant really take any cause im sure all of you have WAY more experience then i do and i was wondering do i really need a box cause i see and read lots of threads thats talk about boxes like urs did shake i mean u see my set up i mean high tech it some more u think that shelf would be cool for a little single plant so i can get start get the feel and then maybe work my way up to 2 hell maybe even 8 plants and is the droop effect urs was had going on shake normal or is that a noob thing