Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
so manipulation warrants murder
The support of Pinochet caused thousands of deaths and yet you forget it was US "manipulation" that allowed him to sieze power
In the US you have the right to shoot invaders of your home. isn't that something the inhabitants of other countries should also have a right to ?

Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
the return on investing billions in building infrastructures around the world and actually having the audacity to expect a return on that investment is suicide bombers and decapitations?
Investing in US companies to rebuild what they destroyed.
Isn't that a bit like me knocking down my neighbours house for no good reason then offering to rebuild it for him, as long as he pays of course.

Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
for that matter, how are we assessing affluence? are we taking into account the fortunes in oil revenues flooding into so many of these countries? fortunes squandered on disproportionately large militaries and luxuries for the few while the masses are kept in ignorance.
The attempts to control the fortunes of countries outside our own are what allow the corrupt regimes to continue to thrive.
What has it to do with us how another man spends his money ?
Is our society any different when the majority serve an elite minority.
Do you truly believe that the wests idea of democracy is any less corrupt than those you rail against.

Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
and just how far back are we going with this? are we counting europe's colonial period, where those nations spread disease and war around the globe? are we taking into account the centuries of aggression surrounding most every civilization, next to which our present sins seem downright peaceful? or are we just blaming those evil americans today, for attempting to spread their ideology around the world through economic leverage and political maneuvering?
Since America and Britain helped to create so many puppet goverments it falls to them to carry the can for the consequences of thier actions.
Also , I don't know if you realise but the question of the OP directly adresses the issue of the US and the existence of Al Quiada.

No country has the right to impose it's will upon another.

As for history and conflict , it just goes to show how stupid the human race really is