Al Qaida works for US intelligence

[overgrowthegovt]

as is usually the case, you seem to miss the point entirely. when you couch a group's aims in the most extreme terms, any goal can be made to seem honorable or evil. these disparate groups are really after the same thing - POWER. the ends being equal, it is the means by which we should judge which is the more admirable cause. each side is fighting to gain control over a wider swath of the population, one through the use of economic and political power and the other by the indiscriminate use of explosives. now tell us again how you can see any cause to admire a group that advocates strapping on an explosive vest and wandering into a crowded marketplace.

the west may have a grand love affair with the underdog, but that doesn't make the cowardly actions of the little guy any more admirable. can you honestly say that hiding behind children and women's skirts while lobbing bombs at noncombatants is any more honorable than the horrors of collateral damage?

I was expressing it in the most extreme terms, as you say. You're right--it really comes down to power and the struggle of two factions over it. I'm saying that neither side is moral or amoral because they both want power at the expense of the other side's life/dignity/etc., and use violent and often horrific means to achieve it. I made the point that I did because it is too often assumed on these boards, even by those who oppose the wars, that the West are the good guys and the insurgents are villains. I was trying to show that that isn't the case by pointing out that at least the insurgents are fighting for power they have been deprived of, whereas the U.S./West, etc. are just trying to keep everyone else's balls on the mantlepiece. I'm not saying the insurgents are honourable--neither side is--just that they are the freedom-starved underdogs.

[kathaksung]

Al Qaida's resource

Any resistence needs resource. From money to ammunition. Vietcon had the support from two big powers - Soviet and China.

Where did the support of Al Qaida come from? Not from Saddam's Iraq, Syria, Iran. If there was, US already beat the drum to invade. Al Qaida only prosperous in Iraq after it is occupied by US army. Because they are supported by pentagon and intelligence. Bin Laden's resistence is known as Mujahiddem before 911. Everybody knows it was trained and supported by CIA. Al Qaida was only a data base in communication for Mujahiddem before 911. After 911, to prevent people to link CIA from Mujahiddem, they created Al Qaida and since blame everything on it.

But where did Al Qaida get the resource from? No nation dare to offend US - a super power. So the support must be from either from Alladin's magic Lantern or US secret budget.

Quote, The head of Pakistan’s ISI, General Mahmud Ahmed, had ordered to wire $100,000 to the leader of 911 attack, Mohammed Atta through the hand of Omar Sheikh. This has been confirmed by the director of the FBI’s financial crimes unit, Dennis Lormel.

Quote, " Musharraf names 9/11 suspect as possible British asset
Fails to mention links to 9/11, ISI, CIA
By Devlin Buckley
© Copyright 2006,

Musharraf names 9/11 suspect as possible British asset

[kathaksung]

Who supplies weapon to Al Qaida?

What excuse the Neocon uses to have US troops staying in Iraq? Insurgence and riot. Although some people said Iraq war is like Vietnam war, it is not. There were two big countries: Soviet Union and China behind the Vietnam. It was their support of weapons and economic aids which helped North Vietnam to win the war. There was none such support for Iraq. Iran and Syria, are much weaker and smaller than Soviet Union and China then. They themselves know they are the next target of the Neocon. They dare not to offend US by supporting the Iraq insurgence. To stay in Iraq, Neocon try to make a mess in Iraq - they need a civil war of Iraq. "

Then who support the insurgence and militias and Al Qaida the weapon they need? To my analysis, there is only one suspect: US. which has motives and ability.
The following news proved it's no others than US supplied weapon to the Iraqi insurgence and militias and Al Qaida, though media use the word "missing".

Quote, "ABC News: 190,000 AK-47s Sent to Iraq Are Missing

A young boy aims an AK-47 assault rifle during clashes between ... The Pentagon cannot account for 190,000 AK-47 rifles and pistols given to Iraqi ...

ABC News - ABC News

Do you have the conception how many is 190,000? It can arm a force bigger than the whole US occupation troop in Iraq. (170,000 after surge) Whom do you think are the receipants of these "missing" weapons?

[McDanger]

did that abc news piece say where the US got the ak's from, since those weapons are not US made.

[kathaksung]

did that abc news piece say where the US got the ak's from, since those weapons are not US made.

1. The AK-47 was from US supply. That's abc news proved.

2. The common practise is to trade with East European country, a big source is from Albania. "The kla: gangsters, terrorists, and the CIA
Drug money was also laundered in the Albanian pyramids (ponzi schemes) which mushroomed ... of Northern Albania with the support of Western banking interests. ... largely small arms including Kalashnikov AK-47 rifles, RPK and PPK machine-guns, ... The proceeds of the narcotics trade has enabled the KLA to rapidly "

3. Why did they supply AK-47 not US ammunition to Iraqis? Because AK-47 is cheaper? Or they knew the weapon would go to the hands of Al Qaida and some one like you would ask this kind of question?

[GoldenBoy812]

1. The AK-47 was from US supply. That's abc news proved.

2. The common practise is to trade with East European country, a big source is from Albania. "The kla: gangsters, terrorists, and the CIA
Drug money was also laundered in the Albanian pyramids (ponzi schemes) which mushroomed ... of Northern Albania with the support of Western banking interests. ... largely small arms including Kalashnikov AK-47 rifles, RPK and PPK machine-guns, ... The proceeds of the narcotics trade has enabled the KLA to rapidly "

3. Why did they supply AK-47 not US ammunition to Iraqis? Because AK-47 is cheaper? Or they knew the weapon would go to the hands of Al Qaida and some one like you would ask this kind of question?

:apachecopter::rambo::Tomcat:

Seriously, this is conspiracy theory BS.

[higher4hockey]

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act and Pentagon got budget and Mid-east war.

im sorry, but what is the source behind your rant?

[headshake]

3. Why did they supply AK-47 not US ammunition to Iraqis? Because AK-47 is cheaper? Or they knew the weapon would go to the hands of Al Qaida and some one like you would ask this kind of question?

because the ak-47 is a much better gun than the m-16!!!

and an ak-47 is a gun, not a type of ammunition. it shoots a 7.62mm round as opposed to a 5.56mm round that the m-16 shoots.


i must go back and read this entire thread before i comment further.



-shake

[kathaksung]

im sorry, but what is the source behind your rant?

Source? All are truths. If there was a news of suicde bomber killed 56 civilians in market or Mosque, then it must have happened in US occupied Iraq not under Saddam's regime. If there was a news of terror attack, it must have been in Pakistan, Afghanistan or US occupied Iraq not in Syria or Iran or Saddam's regime because Al Qaida only survives in country where US intelligence dominated. They are supported and protected by US intelligence and its ally. That's why Bin Laden can never been caught.

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.

[dossantos]

Source? All are truths. If there was a news of suicde bomber killed 56 civilians in market or Mosque, then it must have happened in US occupied Iraq not under Saddam's regime. If there was a news of terror attack, it must have been in Pakistan, Afghanistan or US occupied Iraq not in Syria or Iran or Saddam's regime because Al Qaida only survives in country where US intelligence dominated. They are supported and protected by US intelligence and its ally. That's why Bin Laden can never been caught.

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.

Man that is some funny crazy stuff. i used to sit beside a guy like u..
everyday a new crazy idea bout kennedy or that reagan was in with the devil..
ended up killin himself..
went mad..


smoke more..
go for a walk dude..

Peace and Love to all...