Al Qaida works for US intelligence

[kathaksung]

Al Qaida is only heard after 911. It is created to take the responsibility of 911. Before 911, Al Qaida was only a data base in internet to represent Mujahideen. Why created a new term? Because everybody knows that Mujahideen was supported and trained by CIA. To prevent people to link 911 to US intelligence they created a fictional Al Qaida.

Quote, "A norwegian professor believes al-Qaida is a Pentagon-fiction:

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Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominate. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. No wonder Assad doubt it:

Syrias president questions the existence of al-Qaida:

May 26, 2003
«Syria Denies Existence of Al Qaeda»

«KUWAIT CITY (Talon News) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad revealed in a newspaper interview on Sunday that he does not believe there is a terrorist group called al Qaeda, the organization widely believed to be the perpetrators of the hijackings on September 11, 2001 as well as the recent attacks in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.»

«"Is there really an entity called al Qaeda? It was in Afghanistan, but is it there anymore?" Assad asked.»

«Assad speculated about the existence of al Qaeda and its notorious leader Usama bin Laden in a Kuwaiti newspaper called Al-Anba. »

«Nevertheless, questioning the existence of the al Qaeda terrorist network is very popular in Arab countries. Many people in these countries believe that the United States has hyperbolized the danger of al Qaeda as a means for portraying Muslims as violent and dangerous.»

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[overgrowthegovt]

Deliberately attacking from where there are children and non-combatants placed, knowing full well that their enemy will look like murderers when they retaliate, is another common earmark of Islamic warfare. War is hell, but those who wage it in this fashion are beyond despicable.

How much more "irrational" Islam is compared to Christianity isn't the central issue - it's their actions that people notice. What is boils down to is why this little strip of sand in the desert, called Gaza, has to threaten the peace and well-being of the entire world. If it wasn't that, would it be something similar? If a civiliztion does not move forward, it goes backwards - and trys to take everyone else with it.

Despite, or because of, the Iraq war, the extremist rhetoric and terrorist actions seem to be less pronounced lately. Let's hope this is a signal of better days to come, but it's hard to say. There's some intelligent ex-Muslims out there who are speaking up, but not enough at this point.

You didn't acknowledge the key point I made...that a reversal of the status quo would most likely result in Christian terrorism. The U.S. does not engage in guerilla-level terrorism because it does not need to, sucking as hungrily as it does at the teat of world power. Instead, its government strong-arms any divergent nation. The terrorists are no more amoral than Congress--they're both deadly groups of self-servers. Actually, what the terrorists want is freedom from Western/Christian paternalistic handling of their affairs, and all Congress wants is, as Tony Soprano would say, "motherfucking, cocksucking money." The former strikes me as a touch more admirable goal.

[yokinazu]

ok again i will say this

the difference between a patriot and a terrorist is simpley POINT OF VEIW.

dont you think that when Sherman made his march to the sea, burning Atlanta on the way he was labeled a terrorist by the people living in the south?

[delusionsofNORMALity]

..... what the terrorists want is freedom from Western/Christian paternalistic handling of their affairs, and all Congress wants is, as Tony Soprano would say, "motherfucking, cocksucking money." The former strikes me as a touch more admirable goal.

as is usually the case, you seem to miss the point entirely. when you couch a group's aims in the most extreme terms, any goal can be made to seem honorable or evil. these disparate groups are really after the same thing - POWER. the ends being equal, it is the means by which we should judge which is the more admirable cause. each side is fighting to gain control over a wider swath of the population, one through the use of economic and political power and the other by the indiscriminate use of explosives. now tell us again how you can see any cause to admire a group that advocates strapping on an explosive vest and wandering into a crowded marketplace.

the west may have a grand love affair with the underdog, but that doesn't make the cowardly actions of the little guy any more admirable. can you honestly say that hiding behind children and women's skirts while lobbing bombs at noncombatants is any more honorable than the horrors of collateral damage?

[Weedhound]

"your deeds show your character".......StinkyAttic.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Actually, what the terrorists want is freedom from Western/Christian paternalistic handling of their affairs, and all Congress wants is, as Tony Soprano would say, "motherfucking, cocksucking money." The former strikes me as a touch more admirable goal.

I wouldn't be so quick to think that I know what Islamofascist terrorists really want.

Fuck "Tony Soprano". Organized criminals are sociopathic, degenerate subhumans - but not even close to being the lowlife scum as Islamofascists are.

[psychocat]

How long did the affleunt west believe it could manipulate the politics of other countries before the whole shit pile blew up in thier faces ?
Dirty games using underhand tactics lead to explosive situations.

It all comes down to greed and the hunger for power.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

How long did the affluent west believe it could manipulate the politics of other countries before the whole shit pile blew up in their faces ?
Dirty games using underhand tactics lead to explosive situations.

so manipulation warrants murder? the return on investing billions in building infrastructures around the world and actually having the audacity to expect a return on that investment is suicide bombers and decapitations?

for that matter, how are we assessing affluence? are we taking into account the fortunes in oil revenues flooding into so many of these countries? fortunes squandered on disproportionately large militaries and luxuries for the few while the masses are kept in ignorance.

and just how far back are we going with this? are we counting europe's colonial period, where those nations spread disease and war around the globe? are we taking into account the centuries of aggression surrounding most every civilization, next to which our present sins seem downright peaceful? or are we just blaming those evil americans today, for attempting to spread their ideology around the world through economic leverage and political maneuvering?

[psychocat]

so manipulation warrants murder

The support of Pinochet caused thousands of deaths and yet you forget it was US "manipulation" that allowed him to sieze power
In the US you have the right to shoot invaders of your home. isn't that something the inhabitants of other countries should also have a right to ?

the return on investing billions in building infrastructures around the world and actually having the audacity to expect a return on that investment is suicide bombers and decapitations?

Investing in US companies to rebuild what they destroyed.
Isn't that a bit like me knocking down my neighbours house for no good reason then offering to rebuild it for him, as long as he pays of course.

for that matter, how are we assessing affluence? are we taking into account the fortunes in oil revenues flooding into so many of these countries? fortunes squandered on disproportionately large militaries and luxuries for the few while the masses are kept in ignorance.

The attempts to control the fortunes of countries outside our own are what allow the corrupt regimes to continue to thrive.
What has it to do with us how another man spends his money ?
Is our society any different when the majority serve an elite minority.
Do you truly believe that the wests idea of democracy is any less corrupt than those you rail against.

and just how far back are we going with this? are we counting europe's colonial period, where those nations spread disease and war around the globe? are we taking into account the centuries of aggression surrounding most every civilization, next to which our present sins seem downright peaceful? or are we just blaming those evil americans today, for attempting to spread their ideology around the world through economic leverage and political maneuvering?

Since America and Britain helped to create so many puppet goverments it falls to them to carry the can for the consequences of thier actions.
Also , I don't know if you realise but the question of the OP directly adresses the issue of the US and the existence of Al Quiada.

No country has the right to impose it's will upon another.

As for history and conflict , it just goes to show how stupid the human race really is

[kathaksung]

Al Qaeda is More of a U.S. Propaganda Campaign than a Real Organization
12/24/08
Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook wrote:

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/ju...7.development:

Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative"
www.senate.gov - This page cannot be found..

And see this Los Angeles Times Article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled "The Power of Nightmares" <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm>, which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has been vastly overblown (and see this article <http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1207-26.htm> on the people within the U.S. who are behind the hype).
Is Al Qaeda Just a Bush Boogeyman?

Not only has the U.S. government hyped Al Qaeda, but it has issued numerous fake terror alerts <http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/02/everyone-knows-bush-has-issued-fake.html> to scare people.

George Washington's Blog: Al Qaeda is More of a U.S. Propaganda Campaign than a Real Organization