attitude was uber fast think it only took a literal 5 days. The free seeds i got were great so far 2 of 2 of the TSS are germinating and growing. The free Fem Diesel Is actually the most vigorous of the seeds i planted largest fastest growing. Packaging was just a little puffy manila envelope seeds came in original packaging and labeled for their free ones. Id recommend them and the seem to have just about every breeder there is. and great deals on a lot of seeds.