Quote Originally Posted by MadSativa
War is fucked im not saying its right but live or die deal with it, think of being in those shoes. and splitting kinds in half is wrong, but in a hellish situation, worst things can happen

I dont care what they chant just dont do it on my lawn, this isnt highschool, not everyone is gonna like you.

Some religouse people belive that aliens are gonna take them home someday. Some religouse people belive that all Americans are the devil, and that doesnt bother you?

again, you are facing an advisary that uses men women and children, to string your buddies corpes all around the desert. I am glad I am not their but it does not mean I dont think about my friends who are their.

I dont have to picture it I am an American and I use my right to bear arms (a big resone no one invades here), doesnt mean we dont have to worry about gangs or other interior problems. All the same if I had a kid I assur you getting into any kind of fight with him or her would not be a good idea, we teach our own.

Mission, what the hell are you talking about? You actualy bought into all that Bush crap. We dont controlle our government wake up

I dont think you get it, its being fired at that gets you to think like this, once you are in a situation like that you do what it takes to get out of it and then never get in that situation again. much easier said than done
most of the time I dont see my self at the shit end of the pyramid, but I definitly have never been at the top of the power pyramid. And I see your point like I am glad we are all not in slave camps and talking German. And I am glad we are not facing an invasion, but luck has little to do with it.
1. I am aware bad things happen in wars. Which is why we shouldn't start them half way across the world in order to "bring freedom" to people. Give me a fucking break. What if they wanted to "bring communism" to you..cause they decided its the way to live. Now there would be a use for our army! In case you aren't getting my point...armies are for invasions of the homeland...not to be shipped to a desert, or jungle, or wherever to fight those people. Before all you WW2 students point out that this war was overseas, it had a purpose in that the Nazi's sought world domination.
As a veteran, i'm curious to know what you think here. Do you think an army is for more than defending the homeland?
2. The point I was making with the chanting 'death to america' was that if we continue to act foolishly, murdering civilians wherever because they aren't worth a damn, and they are nothing but the enemy...it will do much to increase hatred and never win the "hearts and minds" so to speak.
3.Can't argue on the crazy religious people.
4. You shouldn't be there...neither should your friends. Face it this isn't a war which should be happening. We can however agree to disagree on that since I don't think you're understanding the point. Point being a war waged against people in their homeland will cause a poignant reaction, most times nationalist sentiment, and fighting invaders is enough to win.
Look at all the wars where that has prevailed, despite the guns bombs and tanks.
5. Your right to bear arms is not something which prevents the invasion of America. Your superpower status, and first rate military capability..that is a reason. Who in their right mind would even think of it, knowing they'd be blown away. But your right to bear arms is not even important here.
You have that to overthrow the government should the union's become perverted. ie. too much fed. power overruling the states, just one example which is now a reality. Using your right to bear arms for its actual purpose is something that I can't believe hasn't happened yet given the outrageous straying from the constitution your country has done.
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6. Trust me I understand what you're saying. When you're there, they are enemies, not people. They killed your friends and brothers in uniform. I GOT IT. You sir, are missing my point. We shouldn't be in that situation. At all. The last "just war" I can think of was WW2. Things like Afghanistan should be avoided...look where they get us. And Vietnam. Waging war on foreign peoples in order to achieve some goal which is to benefit the United States...is completely wrong. So you shouldn't be in that position, thinking of killing their children. Comprehend??