Quote Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
How many years did you serve in the military?? None I bet.... What have you done to help secure your freedoms?? probably not much there either.
Maybe you should go to Iraq and explain the error of their ways. After all, they have only been at war for 4,000 years, and they treat their women like chattel, and kill them with minimum provocation by some very cruel means.
Feel free to go over there an tell them its not right. But unless you have first hand experience, you might want to re-think what you read in the biased media, and books. I don't mind fighting a war for human rights.....been there, done that. Come talk to me whan you can say the same.
You seem to be quite fond of playing the age card and the veteran card with me as a strawman to shut me up...yeah, I'm young, and as a conscientious objector I plan on never serving in the military, but that doesn't invalidate my opinions. Also, believe me, nobody hates the biased media more than I do, and I currently don't obtain my views and opinions from it. Here in Canada, in fact, our media regularly shows its support for the war in Afghanistan, something that irks me to no end.

I've never violently secured my freedoms, no, and I don't plan on doing so--I keep informed and I write transgressional poetry, trying to maintain my freedom of mind by keeping my head above the propaganda waters. I could easily ask you condescendingly how many hours you've spent studying the ideas of the great philosophers, but I prefer to argue without degrading "come talk to me" ultimatums.

If it is indeed womens' rights that you believe in fiercely enough to justify carnage and destruction, then we should invade Saudi Arabia at once--oh, but they're economically more cooperative, so you won't hear any talk of that anytime soon. At least half of the countries in Africa could use a good pro-human rights bloody invasion too...where is the line drawn? I propose drawing it at not using violence as an engine of social change.