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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    Bin Laden was wanted by the FBI, and other government agencies, for other crimes against the United States before 9/11 even occurred.

    If they prefer to maintain bin Laden's innocence and keep their spiritual and political leader safe, then that is the height of stupidity, not to mention arrogance.

    The Taliban maimed, tortured and killed countless people in the name of Islam, for years, in Afghanistan, but they can't kill three thousand people in the United States for a religion and expect to get away with it. This movement is insane and most, if not all, of them need to die, as does al Quada.

    The ultimate goal of these homocidal maniacs is to cause the destruction of the entire world, so that allah can start over. They don't care about the Gaza strip politics - they'd be trying to reach their goals even if Israel disappeared. They must be stopped before they can use nuclear and biological weapons - which they may already have.
    However many people the Taliban maimed, tortured and killed in the name of Islam, far more have been maimed, tortured and killed in the name of the Western economic and social global agenda. The goal of the homicidal maniacs in the Pentagon is to cause the structuring of the entire world along lines of pro-corporate laissez faire capitalism that favours big business interests and the American value system, which someone somehow got into their head is morally superior to all other ways of life--by whatever brutal and disgusting force deemed necessary. Oh, and there is no "may" about whether or not these maniacs have nuclear weapons; they have a vast arsenal which could potentially cause great suffering to the Islamic peoples, and probably will if another Christian nut ever gets into the White House.
    overgrowthegovt Reviewed by overgrowthegovt on . Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death? Personally, whenever I think about it, it disgusts me. Some rifle my taxes bought probably is responsible for some Afghani civilian's brains splattered across the street as we speak. Either that or some new anti-drug propaganda is being paid for. Rating: 5

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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Quote Originally Posted by overgrowthegovt
    However many people the Taliban maimed, tortured and killed in the name of Islam, far more have been maimed, tortured and killed in the name of the Western economic and social global agenda. The goal of the homicidal maniacs in the Pentagon is to cause the structuring of the entire world along lines of pro-corporate laissez faire capitalism that favours big business interests and the American value system, which someone somehow got into their head is morally superior to all other ways of life--by whatever brutal and disgusting force deemed necessary. Oh, and there is no "may" about whether or not these maniacs have nuclear weapons; they have a vast arsenal which could potentially cause great suffering to the Islamic peoples, and probably will if another Christian nut ever gets into the White House.
    So, I take it that you'd prefer the Taliban and al Quaeda to be in charge of our government, and our nuclear weapons. Hope that you're a devout Muslim, because you'll be dead if you aren't.

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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Confronting Islam: 'America as the Last Man Standing'

    by Geert Wilders
    11 Feb, 2009

    This one is somewhat old, but some messages are never. One may not necessarily agree with his every point, but its central messageâ??i.e., confronting the uncontrolled invasion of the West by Islam with a sense of urgencyâ??is most important to take home. Let us not forget that the Muslim population in the UK is growing 10 times faster than the rest of the population. There is not a lot of time at hand to play hide-and-seek or trials and errors. Posting of this message now is also an opportunity to express solidarity with Wilders, who is today banned from entering Britain. When you put your self-proclaimed destroyers on dole, while deny entry to those, who call upon you for saving what you stand for, then your suicide is inevitable. Wilders' speech in New York on September 25, 2008, sponsored by the Hudson Institute.

    Dear friends,

    Thank you very much for inviting me.

    I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

    First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

    The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

    There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

    Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden.

    In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system.. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

    Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.

    French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

    A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

    Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

    The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

    Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.


    Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

    The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

    Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life.

    Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.


    If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

    Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

    This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

    The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.


    Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for Americaâ??as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.


    Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply don't have the right to do so.

    Islam Watch - "Confronting Islam: 'America as the Last Man Standing'" by Geert Wilders

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    #4
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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Nope not horrified, or mad at all, in fact I lose sleep every night but not cause of this ....in the slightest. I saw a video of Iraqi kids running up to a humvee loaded with marines, the Marines were cool and nice laughing and giving them MRE's but all I could think is if I were in that situation all those kids would be dead. In that situation I see no reasone why they should not have opened up and split em all down the middle. These guys and girls do a amazing job out thier despite all the things that are against them. I just wish we had better supplies for them than just rifels.
    the cure for cancer is real
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    #5
    Junior Member

    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Whats the point. Nothing changes by showing the Government emotion.
    You have to think like a sex slave, lay there, close your eyes and go to your happy place..


    The Adult industry is the only thing that horrifies me. My dog snoop says it best,

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    #6
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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadSativa
    Nope not horrified, or mad at all, in fact I lose sleep every night but not cause of this ....in the slightest. I saw a video of Iraqi kids running up to a humvee loaded with marines, the Marines were cool and nice laughing and giving them MRE's but all I could think is if I were in that situation all those kids would be dead. In that situation I see no reasone why they should not have opened up and split em all down the middle. These guys and girls do a amazing job out thier despite all the things that are against them. I just wish we had better supplies for them than just rifels.
    It's kinda sick that you'd blast little kids away. Actually its not kinda...its completely fucked.
    Cause that will sure help them stop chanting "Death to America".
    Im so worried that people actually think like this!!!
    Again...PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How is that so damn difficult to get?
    Picture an invading force here...then picture your kid being shot and killed by them. And what would you do?

    how hard is it for people to pull their head out of their ass(or their ipod, or their 'bachelor' episode, or whatever other kind of pitiful propoganda/entertainment you are partaking in) and realize that even though there is a good aspect to this mission...the way we are going about it is wrong. Plain and simple.

    All you hawks should just consider yourself lucky we aren't facing an invasion. Or that we don't speak chinese or russian, and we're not on the shitty end of the power pyramid. All's well and good when you're the one firing, isn't it....
    Disgusting.

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    #7
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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshNugz
    It's kinda sick that you'd blast little kids away. Actually its not kinda...its completely fucked.
    Cause that will sure help them stop chanting "Death to America".
    Im so worried that people actually think like this!!!
    Again...PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How is that so damn difficult to get?
    Picture an invading force here...then picture your kid being shot and killed by them. And what would you do?

    how hard is it for people to pull their head out of their ass(or their ipod, or their 'bachelor' episode, or whatever other kind of pitiful propoganda/entertainment you are partaking in) and realize that even though there is a good aspect to this mission...the way we are going about it is wrong. Plain and simple.

    All you hawks should just consider yourself lucky we aren't facing an invasion. Or that we don't speak chinese or russian, and we're not on the shitty end of the power pyramid. All's well and good when you're the one firing, isn't it....
    Disgusting.
    In Nam, little kids would walk up to soldiers, drop a live grenade at their feet and run.... I am surprised they are not having that prob in Iraq, or having probs with sappers either. I guess they are having enough problems with IEDs and car bombs. vigilance means you keep on living, indiference and/or letting your guard down can cost you and your fellow brothers in arms their lives. but they don't show those kinds of things in the media. They only show what they can sensationalize.

    Yes I am a Viet nam era vet, and I still remember.

  9.     
    #8
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    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    Confronting Islam: 'America as the Last Man Standing'

    by Geert Wilders
    11 Feb, 2009

    This one is somewhat old, but some messages are never. One may not necessarily agree with his every point, but its central messageâ??i.e., confronting the uncontrolled invasion of the West by Islam with a sense of urgencyâ??is most important to take home. Let us not forget that the Muslim population in the UK is growing 10 times faster than the rest of the population. There is not a lot of time at hand to play hide-and-seek or trials and errors. Posting of this message now is also an opportunity to express solidarity with Wilders, who is today banned from entering Britain. When you put your self-proclaimed destroyers on dole, while deny entry to those, who call upon you for saving what you stand for, then your suicide is inevitable. Wilders' speech in New York on September 25, 2008, sponsored by the Hudson Institute.

    Dear friends,

    Thank you very much for inviting me.

    I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

    First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

    The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

    There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

    Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden.

    In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system.. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

    Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.

    French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

    A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

    Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

    The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

    Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.


    Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

    The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

    Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life.

    Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.


    If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

    Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

    This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

    The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.


    Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for Americaâ??as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.


    Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply don't have the right to do so.

    Islam Watch - "Confronting Islam: 'America as the Last Man Standing'" by Geert Wilders
    You can be damn sure if fucked up shit like this were happening in America, it would be us kicking their ass down the street.

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    FreshNugz, you're completely right. Just want to congratulate you on your sane view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    The Taliban maimed, tortured and killed countless people in the name of Islam, for years, in Afghanistan, but they can't kill three thousand people in the United States for a religion and expect to get away with it.
    I thought that was sarcasm when I first read it. That is how dumb you sound.

    So it doesn't matter that they're bombing the shit out of their own civilians but a couple of U.S people means they should be destroyed?
    I'd say the only reason to destroy them is coz they are evil bastards.
    I can tell you're one of those 'patriotic' people who would just nuke the whole middle east if you could.

    Honestly I don't understand patriotism either. Why would you be proud of your country? Unless it's murder, rape etc. free and everyone is happy most of the time there is no reason to be proud.
    And really it's just a group of people who all have different beliefs.
    It's not like a whole country has ANYTHING in common besides walking on the same ground surrounded by water.

    Anyway....
    If the U.S really thinks they are so bad, they would bomb them to high heaven. It's not what it's about. Think about that.

    To reiterate freshnugz view....
    Why do you guys think it's okay to destroy people because they live in a different country or hold different beliefs?
    As I said "every person holds different beliefs" not just every country.
    Most of those people want to get out of there.

    But most importantly, who are you to say that their beliefs are wrong!?
    The only reason you do is because what you were brought up to believe is different.

    Think about this, why is it wrong to marry a 12 year old?
    Can actually think of any valid, rational reason?
    To them it's perfectly fine because, obviously, most women start ovulating then so, naturally they are ready to have children.
    To Western countries it's wrong because our law says you have to be 18 for some reason or another.
    Honestly, give me a reason why it's wrong.
    Then consider the same rationale with the rest of their beliefs.

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    #10
    Senior Member

    Anyone else horrified their tax dollars buy death?

    Here are a few reason why a 12 year old should not be allowed to marry. For one they are too young to deal with all the emotional stresses that come with marriage and bearing children. Another is they are taken advantage of or sold off to some husband five times their age. Are you really telling me you think a 12 year old is capable of comprehending what marriage means for them? Do you think they are developed enough to make that choice themselves or be forced into it? Now about the patriotism. To be patriotic you do not have to fully agree with everything your country does or be proud of that. What I am proud of is what my country is suppose to stand for and hopefully one day will. I am proud of all the people who died fighting for my and your right to say what the hell ever we want. I am proud that no matter the cost we will defend freedom. If you can't find one reason to be proud of your country well....lets just say I am glad you are not American. For we do not need anymore sunshine patriots.

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