Two Trainwreck's 400w HPS, LST, Closet Grow

[bombdiggity]

Nah man it's a 400. I run a very similar fan with 2 400s and have not ever had a problem, in 2 + years. I have never seen anyone run it your way without being corrected, it is definitely the right way to go. Anyone else agree?

i agree

[bigtopsfinn]

Thanks for the input guys... I dunno, I'm thinking about how I could it...

The problem is that if I put the fan after the cooltube, there is no room for it in the closet, and if I somehow tie it to the top of the closet and hang it over the edge (outside of the closet), its gonna lean against the back wall and make a lot of vibrating noise.

If you have any ideas of how to mount the fan inside/outside my limited space, I'm all ears:jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

I went and changed my setup again, this is like the 4th different setup I have had with all the same equipment.

This new setup solved a lot of issues:
1) The fan is now pulling air through both the carbon filter and cooltube
2) Fewer bends in ducting - more efficient
3) With the fan last, now there is no more light leak from the exhaust
4) Should do something with the temps, The temps in the direct light are still about the same, haven't tried to measure it yet..

This change cost me about â?¬3... Just bought some metal reinforcements, rope, and bolts/washers/nuts to hang up the fan.

I put the old tubing on the end of the fan, just for sound insulation because we have to sleep in this room also...

[AllforMe]

Much Better!! How is that scrog tied down? or is it just like a trellis holding the plant together? I scrog with dwc. I built it out of pvc, after what I saw someone on here do, except he did it to a netpot and used chicken wire. This was a querkle mother I just picked clean last week, so I decided to throw her in the screen under a 400. She is in flower 3 days today!:thumbsup:
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[bigtopsfinn]

I'm using chicken wire and twist ties for the scrog. I pretty much just cut the chicken wire to size, pressed it down a little on the plants, and started to tie the growth shoots to the wire while tucking larger fan leaves below the screen. Yeah, its not evenly flat, hopefully that won't make it hard to maintain an even canopy. Plus when I'm done tying, I can cut away any extra chicken wire to make it easier to rotate/transport.

Just put mine into flowering last night. I'm expecting to be done sometime in late April. (I just hope my stash from the last grow is enough to last till then:jointsmile

[bigtopsfinn]

This is now Day 7 of flowering. I have continued to pull new shoots and fan leaves underneath the screen. It's hard not to go pick at it every 10 minutes, but typically I will tuck everything one day, and let it grow for a day or two when I will go through and tuck everything again. This seems to work well, as new shoots have time to grow up into the canopy.

I haven't used the twist ties much. In fact, I've been cutting most of them off, as it makes arranging the branches easier. The only times I use them now are when I want to lift a branch so its lower and middle shoots are closer to the light. I've also made the SCROG into a stadium type. I tied string to the chicken wire near the middle of the SCROG in a couple places, and pulled down the center of the screen and tied the string to the dish rack underneath the buckets. Besides a couple twist ties, the screen is pretty much just sitting on top of the plants, being pulled down in the center by the string.

I have been watering every three days. Two times I gave it the Canna Flores at half strength and then full strength, with the last feeding just water. I think I will give it a half dose of the top activator next feeding, followed by the Canna Flores the following, and plain water after, and just continue that until I have to do the final flush.

[ST0N3Rmike]

Thats looking great I'm looking forward to see the differences in what ya yield compared to your last grow. Good luck!

[bigtopsfinn]

I just took them out today to turn them and do a little adjusting with the screen and the tops. I also rotated 180 degrees. Starting to show flowers already. Hopefully the worst of the stretching is over by now, because I'm starting to run out of room for all the tops in some areas.

I've started feeding it both the Canna Terra Flores and the Plagron Green Sensation Top Activator, with water on the third feeding. No sign of any tip burn, so I think I will start to gradually and SLOWLY increase the nutes, stopping at the first sign of tip burn.

In one thread about Scrog, it said after 2 weeks of flowering, its advised to trim all of the leaves and growth underneath the screen. This supposedly helps in air circulation, and no energy is wasted in the little popcorn buds. However, Scrog is already very unnatural for the plant, so I don't think I will be doing any trimming at this time. I'm gonna run out of bud here pretty soon, so I'll probably end up starting from the bottom again!:jointsmile:

[ST0N3Rmike]

Looking great!

[AllforMe]

Wow thats alot of plant at week 2!! They look good finn, as far as the stretch, the 40/60 phenomenon is in effect. They spend 40% of flowering time stretching, and 60% in late flower. Most 8 week strains stretch for 22-25 days. Imagine if you didn't have the scrog! If you don't trim the undergrowth it will waste hormones and energy that would otherwise have gone to the canopy. Just go down and clean off the stems, pinch off all lower bud sites, and trim all leaves that don't get light. Don't remove too much in 1 shot. Do 1/2 of what you want to remove per plant, then in 2 or 3 days do the rest. I do it all at once and never have a problem. With the amount of foliage you got there I doubt you'll be able to remove enough to stunt them. Just do it now before it gets too far into budding. it's the perfect time! There is alot of yellowing growth in there that you may want to get rid of. WHile scrog is unnatural, once you do it you change the growth pattern and there is just way too much floiage that will get no light and then thats where problems will start, you got 6 more weeks of that dying foliage just getting buried then rotting! I will say you made the absolute most out of that limited space tho! Next time start budding much earlier and you'll be ok! No matter what those will put out some nice yield with all that light on such an even canopy!