Obama's Boys take down 5 more dispensaries

[allrollsin21]

IF Obama is not going to change anything except the color of the presidents skin, then why the hell did so many Bush supporters vote for McCain? If everything is going to stay the same, isn't that a good thing for all you Obama haters? ahh the irony.
People cannot be held accountable for what they say regarding politics...its way to silly:jointsmile:

allrollsin21 Reviewed by allrollsin21 on 02-15-2009. Obama's Boys take down 5 more dispensaries hey, Kool-Aid drinkers ! :D , listening to Los Angeles radio this morning, five more L.A. dispensaries were taken down ... 'Change ?', not with a cabinet full of old Clinton re-treads ... :S3: Rating: 5

[8182KSKUSH]

IF Obama is not going to change anything except the color of the presidents skin, then why the hell did so many Bush supporters vote for McCain?

Sorry, I thought we had been speaking in the context of cannabis alone as the political topic of this thread as it relates to the current Obama administration. I don't understand what voting for McCain has to do with anything in this thread actually? So what does it have to do with anything? As far as I know, most "Bush supporters" that voted for McCain, did so because of pretty basic broad fundamental disagreement with the core liberal ideology. NOt because of "hope for change that McCain would change federal cannabis law?":wtf: Again still unsure how your statement/question is relevant but I am willing to listen. Honestly though, I don't even understand how the two statements are even related to each other, let alone what you are asking?

If everything is going to stay the same, isn't that a good thing for all you Obama haters? ahh the irony.

Well, I know that the federal pov on cannabis is going to stay the same, that's what I believe. I don't understand how that is a good thing for anyone for or opposed to Obama? Can you maybe translate your question or something? I don't think anyone said "everything" is going to stay the same no matter whom wins, but please if that is your claim, then prove it, post it. If it's not, then clarify for me what you are trying to ask or say. If you are just trying to flame the thread because hearing criticism of Obama makes you twitch and shit, then just go the fuck away, come back when you can make an on topic post eh?
It sounds like, you read some posts, and got in a tussy because some folks are pointing out some major issues with regard to how the current administration is handling cannabis. And since you can't defend your position of ankle grabbing for Obama and Change and Hope, and you can't stand to hear the heretical statements about him, you just made an off topic post attacking anyone that voted for McCain for some reason. As if them voting for McCain affects how Obama is now not doing/nor has any intention to do anything about cannabis which is specifically what we are all discussing here. Almost as if you are trying to bash anyone that may be critical of Obama. I hope that's not what you are doing. (BTW, funny assumption that anyone being critical in this thread of Obama, "must have been a "McCain supporter".)
At least that is what it sounds like to me but maybe I just read it wrong.
So if wanna start a whole new thread, about sum total, overall political opinions then yeah there would be a stark difference between the 2. As for change with the "big picture", then no, he isn't anything new. Same hard line liberal policy positions. Maybe people that voted for McCain voted on important issues, most McCain voters realize that he offered no "Change" w/regard to cannabis, but then again he was honest about his position on the subject. So yeah, no change their, Obama, tried to float the belief out there without ever really taking a hard position that he would "change" things, and many many many many many people here believed/and still do that he will bring change with regard to cannabis.

People cannot be held accountable for what they say regarding
politics...its way to silly:jointsmile:

Apparently.:thumbsup:

So let's recap

IF Obama is not going to change anything except the color of the presidents skin, then why the hell did so many Bush supporters vote for McCain? If everything is going to stay the same, isn't that a good thing for all you Obama haters? ahh the irony.
People cannot be held accountable for what they say regarding politics...its way to silly:jointsmile:

You made 3 statements, none are relevant to the topic as far as I can tell, and it basically looks like you are just tossing in some negative comments aimed at anyone that may say anything critical of "The Chosen ONe", becausae it almost makes your head explode to hear anyone doubt, question, or criticize "The Messiah."
So I know my reply looks long, but if you really read it, there are just a couple of direct questions that I would like to know from you with regard to your original post. I suspect they will go un-answered and you will likely make another post along the same lines of your previously mentioned one. That's fine.
But seriously..
Get off his dick man! LOL:jointsmile:

[allrollsin21]

Change? Change? Hello? MCfly? HE'S BLACK!!!! Duh. . Now for the first time we have a half black man with a muslim name inThat's the change, that's it. Usually the president is white, hellooooooooooo.
Aside from that I don't see any change, so that has to be in fact the "Change" that he promised everyone, well congratulations, he came through, sure enough the white house pretending like cannabis is a scourge on our society and it's proponents need to live as 2nd class citizens, instead of some old white guy. Hip hip hooray.:S4::yippee::yippee:

I apologize for causing so much anger in your response to my post. The above is what i was referring to.

[8182KSKUSH]

I apologize for causing so much anger in your response to my post. The above is what i was referring to.

Make no mistake, far from angry, don't confuse being specific with anger! No apology needed. Tone is pretty difficult to translate on line. But really, you were referring to that post. OK.

I still have the same question with your post. What is your point? I said he is half black and has muslim name, and from what I can tell, that's the sum total of the "change" as compared to any other liberal candidate. Maybe no one has noticed, it is in fact the only change to speak of. Is it wrong to point that out? It's a matter of fact. Aside from those 2 points, he is no different than any other white male democrat that has held the office prior. That was my point. Doesn't bother me if you disagree. Just wanted to know exactly what you were trying to say in your post, the 3 brief statements were not really coherently related to each other or the topic. Sorry, just asking. :wtf: I don't want to start a flame war or anything, just wondering WTF you were trying to say or ask so I could answer you, but I guess I know now the motivations behind the post now.:jointsmile::thumbsup:

[allrollsin21]

that's the sum total of the "change" as compared to any other liberal candidate. Maybe no one has noticed, it is in fact the only change to speak of. Is it wrong to point that out? It's a matter of fact. Aside from those 2 points, he is no different than any other white male democrat that has held the office prior. That was my point. Doesn't bother me if you disagree. Just wanted to know exactly what you were trying to say in your post, the 3 brief statements were not really coherently related to each other or the topic. Sorry, just asking. :wtf: I don't want to start a flame war or anything, just wondering WTF you were trying to say or ask so I could answer you, but I guess I know now the motivations behind the post now.:jointsmile::thumbsup:

"half black man with a muslim name inThat's the change, that's it. "

First is the above statement, then is the bold statement. You speak in black and white when its not that simple. The only change to speak of? Clearly you are don't pay attention to Environmental issues. Obama has made quite a few changes in that area. Increased protections. To some that is important to others it is not. If you are going to say "Thats the change, thats it" with strong language, and a bunch of WTF's dont expect everyone to be intimidated and not call you on your inaccuracy.
I guess i should have assumed that you were saying there is no difference between Obama and any other candidate? I was just responding to what you wrote. Word for word.
I am sure i wont be missed in these political discussions, and i am sure not going to miss them. peas

[8182KSKUSH]

Whoope.
How are his environmental, or other "changes" any different than any other old white liberal male politician? They aren't.
More specifically though,
I was speaking of "change" in the context of the federal governments pov on cannabis, which is what this thread is about.
I think it would be great if you wanted to make a thread about how Obama is somehow magical and totally new and different in his other policy positions lmao! None of his ideas, or policies seem to be anything new from left field America. Exactly what is he going to do that is so vastly different from any other liberal that would be president? Answer nothing!
So yeah, as it relates to this very topic, the raids by the DEA, there will not be any change, aside from the fact that a half black man with a muslim name is in charge instead of some old wrinkled white guy. That's what the "change" amounts to in my opinion so far as the new administrations take on cannabis, which I believe I shouted from the hill tops prior to the election. BUt yeah, if you wanna talk more broadly in terms of other political issues, then great, make the thread, I will be there and you can convince me how "unique, different, and vastly different" Obamas views are from any other would be bed wetter that would be president! They aren't, so again, the only real change would be the fact the leftist happens to be half black and has a muslim name, take that away and he is no different than any other liberal politician.
Unless I missed something.:thumbsup:

Allrolls, think you could take a stab at one of my original questions related to your original post, I am all ears.

Again still unsure how your statement/question is relevant but I am willing to listen. Honestly though, I don't even understand how the two statements are even related to each other, let alone what you are asking?

When you said this:

"IF Obama is not going to change anything except the color of the presidents skin, then why the hell did so many Bush supporters vote for McCain? If everything is going to stay the same, isn't that a good thing for all you Obama haters? ahh the irony."


Still kinda wondering, you do realize we are talking about the federal gov conducting raids and how the current administration is handling,(or not), that's pretty much it. Please understand that the original post you are occupied with, was made in the context of that discussion. I was just wondering if you were going to continue to make this thread about anything other than the topic, or if you could add something to it that is relevant. Still kinda seems like you don't see the focus of the discussion.:jointsmile:

That's cool though, just make a whole new thread about what you want to talk about, whatever the fuck it is lol, and I will be there!

In the mean time, what do you think of the federal raids continuing under an AG that thinks individual cannabis users and pan handlers should all be locked up? Eh?
You know Obama hand picked him right eh?
LMFAO
OH, and nevermind that all the insinuations that Obama was going to change anything regarding the federal position on cannabis is completely laughable anyway, but he played it out because many folks don't even no any better and don't really understand that the president is not "King" and only has certain limited powers, of which DO NOT INCLUDE SNAPPING HIS FINGERS AND MAKING THE DEA NOT ENFORCE FEDERAL LAW.
I say again.
HELLLLLOOOOOOOO! MCFLYYYYYYYYY!:S2:
I understand why you may not want to talk about this, if you are an Obamaniac! Must be alot to take in LMFAO!:S2::thumbsup:

So when is Obama going to end the federal raids LOL!
Keep "Hoping" in one hand, I'll shit in your other, we'll see which one fills up first.
Change!
HOpe!
HOpe for Change!
:thumbsup:

Really though, I really feel sorry for anyone that voted for Obama for the sole reason that they believe he, "The KING!" Would end federal raids and or legalize weed.
Must be hard to get dressed in the morning when your that duh duh da daa!

[allrollsin21]

wow i realy feel sorry for you. It sounds as if you actually believe there is some drastic difference between dems and repubs...ok sorry i need to answer your questions.

I responded to YOUR first post in this discussion. That makes it on topic. If you make a statement, it is then part of the discussion. Understand?
What is going to do different? You are a hater for even asking that. How the hell does anyone know, he has been president for a month, and dealing with our joke of an economy. I am sure that you will be as correct as you were when you shouted from the treetops that, "Obama will never be president". Wow you are a truthsayer.
I feel sorry for anyone who voted on the medicinal cannabis policy in this country. Such a small piece of the pie. I believe he will address this issue at some point, and you will be wrong again.
So i'll say it again you so you dont pop anymore blood vessels, i was responding to your first post. I explained what. The world is grey, not black and white.
ps. Ron Paul for King of the USA!

[8182KSKUSH]

I responded to YOUR first post in this discussion. That makes it on topic. If you make a statement, it is then part of the discussion. Understand?

Oh, yeah guess I "understand". So no matter the context of the conversation, as long as I put a previous post in quotes, I can then make any reply I want no matter how un-related to the topic of the post?
Just because you "respond" to a post, doesn't mean that your response is on topic, related to the discussion, or relevant. Here's an example of what I am saying.
Here we have a thread about Obama's administration maintaining the status quo as far as federal raids go, in the thread are many posts discussing whether he will or won't "Change" things.
In 1 post I say this,


Change? Change? Hello? MCfly? HE'S BLACK!!!! Duh. That's the change, that's it. Usually the president is white, hellooooooooooo.
Aside from that I don't see any change, so that has to be in fact the "Change" that he promised everyone, well congratulations, he came through, sure enough. Now for the first time we have a half black man with a muslim name in the white house pretending like cannabis is a scourge on our society and it's proponents need to live as 2nd class citizens, instead of some old white guy. Hip hip hooray.

As you can see, this post is directly related to the conversation.
Your reply?

IF Obama is not going to change anything except the color of the presidents skin, then why the hell did so many Bush supporters vote for McCain? If everything is going to stay the same, isn't that a good thing for all you Obama haters? ahh the irony.
People cannot be held accountable for what they say regarding politics...its way to silly

Your reply was not relevant or on topic just because you put it in the thread. Understand?:thumbsup:

I responded to YOUR first post in this discussion. That makes it on topic. If you make a statement, it is then part of the discussion. Understand?

Yeah technically it is "part of the discussion" but it is not on topic, at all. Understand?

So outta 4 posts in the thread you managed to make 1 on topic statement.

"I feel sorry for anyone who voted on the medicinal cannabis policy in this country. Such a small piece of the pie. I believe he will address this issue at some point, and you will be wrong again.

Bravo! Applause!!!! Good for you. Thank you. Although I disagree with you, I am happy to see you could at least muster up 1 coherent relevant thought related to this "discussion"! LOL
As for the rest of your posts, maybe you should make a new thread titled, "I hate discussing politics w/ anyone that won't allow me to sidetrack the conversation when I disagree with them as opposed to mustering up a legit back and forth debate, it's easier to try to bait people into a mild flame war!"
LMAO
Might be kind of a long title.
Feel free to continue making irrelevant posts directed more at me than the topic of conversation, but don't expect me to respond anymore, unless you change your mind and decide to make on topic posts instead of just posting shit and saying it's part of the discussion now, regardless of the content of the post.
Understand!:thumbsup:

PS, Never fear, I am sure that Obama will have me and those that are like minded, locked up in a civillian detainment camp soon enough, so eventually you will only hear the opinions that you agree with! LOL:jointsmile:

[8182KSKUSH]

p.S.

I am not angry! More like amused. I know my avatar "looks" angry! LOL

[SmokiNomad]

oh come on. The dude just took office- I think he has a few bigger fish to fry.... such as... you know....the economy going to hell... and 2 wars across the god damn globe.

It took the government weeks to get fresh water to the people DYING in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, I think its going to take a while to get the ball rolling here folks. stop being so impatient

Re-legalization would be one of the best things for the economy. Think of the money we'd make as a country, and as individuals. We'd also save a lot of money, because we'd not be afraid to grow our own. Imagine all the money we'd save on using biodiesel and ethanol from hemp, and powering all our diesel electricity plants with hemp biodiesel. Imagine all the biodegradable plastic companies that would spring up!

Imagine all the paper companies selling hemp paper to the world instead of wood paper! Everyone wants to be "green".

We can solve so many of the planet's problems by simply re-legalizing hemp.