Quote Originally Posted by LEDGirl
One of the primary reasons of the grow test, is to show the stress factor of the MH light in growing anything, even at 24" above the system. A lot of growers that I know personally, don't use reflectors, ventilation fans, etc... so for them, this is a real-world application test. Every grower using HID has suffered from the damage of heat stress at one point or another, as the tomatoes show. This is the reason we are adding in ventilation and glass for the bloom test. It will also allow us to lower the MH. First we show issues commonly faced by most gardeners, then we correct those issues with the MH (cause the LED doesn't have them), and do a PRO side-by-side bloom with ventilation.



That is the reason I recommend using LED's at 6-12" from your plants. A lot of companies out there advise you to use them at 18 - 24", and they use less intense LED's. So what is your point?



What is your argument, besides arguing? Are trying to say that if the light were at 12" above the plants, that the plants would be growing at 3-4x the rate they are now? The difference from 12-24" is not enough to make a substantial difference to the growth rate of a 400W MH confined in a 15" x 15" mylar covered area. Other people have already argued on other forums that the inverse square law doesn't apply the same in this scenario because the light is being used in a much smaller area than it was designed, with highly reflective material. So what's your argument? How much DIFFERENCE are you claiming there is in growth, by having the MH at 24" instead of 12"??? Answer that before continuing on with your vague excuse for the HID's performance.



So you think that I'm going to send some kid that's only been growing weed since last October, free lights after he's been nothing but abrasive on the forum, and expect you're going to give professional, reliable results? PLEASE! Do you know how many no-names like you there are, that have MINIMAL growing experience at best, that are out there soliciting me for a free light, acting like they have some kind of authority and a following? The grow journal I posted has pictures from a 3rd party. I could post my own results if I wanted, but that comes later.

You want an INDEPENDENT test? Go to grasscity.com as there will be plenty of them soon. If that's not good enough for you, Mr. Ed Rosenthal is doing a grow with our lights in 2-3 weeks from clone to harvest. 954W of our LED against a 1000W HPS. Why would I waste money sending you a free light, when I have someone like him who's agreed to do such high-powered testing already?

So please stop acting like Moses "My home, My people", as you don't speak for everyone on this forum. If you have something positive to add, or to discuss please do so, but continuing on in a manner like you have isn't very mature...
no names? What happened to Ed Rosenthals results?I'm a "no-name", as is everyone else on the forums you predate.Jesus lady...it's called therapy...get some.