Using keif sounds looks like a good idea, but IMO, I think using any vaporizer and good weed can get you as high as you want. I have a DBV and I can't even tell you how much money it saves me while getting me soo much higher compared to smoking. Me and my friends can get high off $20 4 times or more..its great:thumbsup:.. And in the words of Katt Williams, "You don't want to know how high you can ACTUALLY get!" haha so true:stoned: