Do small time gangbanger 5 and dime dealers make regular smokers look bad?

[DAP8026]

I agree with a lot of your logic THC, but you cannot use the exact same economic principles while referring to the blackmarket as you would when talking about mainstream Corporate America. For instance, you cannot use terms like "market your product" so loosely. We all know word of mouth advertising seems to be the most effective, but that alone barely constitutes as "marketing your product" if at all. You cannot exactly advertise an illicit substance like you could a pair of shoes or a video game console. I also believe the difficulty of attaining some of the other things you mentioned such as new business development and achieving sales goals in the blackmarket are in no way comparable to that of which you referred to as a "real profession". I am from TN, which according to the NORML Report on U.S. Domestic Marijuana Production and information gathered by the DEA, is the third leading producer of marijuana in the Unites States only behind Kentucky, and California. That being said, I have never seen anyone, big time or small, who has had to compete for market share in marijuana. I also live in a large metropolitan city as well. The demand is just too high.

My second point is that whether or not you like to admit it society does look down on the hip hop subculture. I am not saying you deny or advocate this in any way and I am certainly not trying to justify it. At midyear 2007 there were 4,618 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,747 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 773 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males. I cannot in anyway prove how these black males acted or what they listened to, but I would not be afraid to say that they were affiliated with the hip hop culture at least somewhat. I wish the ignorance would end same as you THC. America only wants to focus on the negatives. They never mention the great people of our society who smoked marijuana. One of my idols, Carl Sagan, is considered by many to be one of the top three Physicists of the 21st century. What no one wanted to mention is the fact that he was an avid smoker. He formulated and wrote the answer to one of his most famous equations on his shower wall in steam while him and his wife were stoned bathing together. Why wasn't he mentioned in the news for smoking marijuana?

[Spoken Word]

Don't knock someone because of their own personal style. I have a dealer thats just like who your describing, and he's a great guy. One of my best friends, sideways cap, chains and all. Just because somebody likes rap and fits the culture does not mean they're stupid or irresponsible. I mean, what the hell is wrong with a kid having a dream to be like their idol, be it "fiddycent" or Robert Plant. Go ahead and try to tell me that people haven't always been the exact same way, just with different role models.

Im afraid what your saying is all of this certain type of people are the same, and they all fit the negative stereotype. Sounds like somthin them white folks used to say bout the colored folks way back when.

Oh yea, and this guy im talking about has a good job which supports his dealing, which supports his weed smoking. This guy gets pretty more income than anyone else i know in the same situation. He's done very good for himself. Also he's finishing school and getting ready to go to college. Now ask again HOW someone can possibly stand up for these, "low life drug dealer types." Funny how some people don't allow themselves to be put down by the guy out there discriminating against them.

I think what are more predominant in America than racial stereotyping, are age and lifestyle stereotyping. I mean there are laws that say you can't not hire a black man because he's black. There's no law that says you can't hire someone because of the way they dress or act. Maybe that has something to do with why these kids don't have real jobs.

:thumbsup:

in my circle, we don't judge... as long as the person isn't firing automatic weapons into crowds, i can care less about his "persona".

i've learned that a style of dress or even a form of expression doesn't define the character of the person.. their ACTIONS do.

don't be so naive..
many of these "gangsters" dress like that as a self defence.. deep inside, most of them question life like all of us......

[thcbongman]

I agree with a lot of your logic THC, but you cannot use the exact same economic principles while referring to the blackmarket as you would when talking about mainstream Corporate America. For instance, you cannot use terms like "market your product" so loosely. We all know word of mouth advertising seems to be the most effective, but that alone barely constitutes as "marketing your product" if at all. You cannot exactly advertise an illicit substance like you could a pair of shoes or a video game console. I also believe the difficulty of attaining some of the other things you mentioned such as new business development and achieving sales goals in the blackmarket are in no way comparable to that of which you referred to as a "real profession". I am from TN, which according to the NORML Report on U.S. Domestic Marijuana Production and information gathered by the DEA, is the third leading producer of marijuana in the Unites States only behind Kentucky, and California. That being said, I have never seen anyone, big time or small, who has had to compete for market share in marijuana. I also live in a large metropolitan city as well. The demand is just too high.

My second point is that whether or not you like to admit it society does look down on the hip hop subculture. I am not saying you deny or advocate this in any way and I am certainly not trying to justify it. At midyear 2007 there were 4,618 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,747 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 773 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males. I cannot in anyway prove how these black males acted or what they listened to, but I would not be afraid to say that they were affiliated with the hip hop culture at least somewhat. I wish the ignorance would end same as you THC. America only wants to focus on the negatives. They never mention the great people of our society who smoked marijuana. One of my idols, Carl Sagan, is considered by many to be one of the top three Physicists of the 21st century. What no one wanted to mention is the fact that he was an avid smoker. He formulated and wrote the answer to one of his most famous equations on his shower wall in steam while him and his wife were stoned bathing together. Why wasn't he mentioned in the news for smoking marijuana?

You made some very valid points. The basic principles can be carried over to other industries. Example, attaining new business development and sales goals vary depending on the industry. However the legality affects the business environment so you aren't going to have the same type of transaction like corporations. There is no doubt some form of marketing although not complex through mass media or customer satisfaction surveys. Example of hype the quality, strain names in the black market and various concepts like dryness are for the most part marketing ploys. Good quality cannabis sell itself, but it's not necessarly the case with low-grade cannabis which customers sometime need convincing to buy it. The market is saturated with so much marijuana and much of the demand tend to go for higher quality cannabis rather than low. Regardless, there is competition although there is plenty of demand to satisfy it.

I certainly agree with you that the attitudes towards hip-hop are negative for a reason. Mainstream hip-hop artists projects a negative image for the most part, and the studios cooperate in releasing and marketing their material. But people buy that shit. I'm not saying every hip-hop artist is like that, Kanye West is a mainstream example who isn't, but garbage apparently sells.

I wish for ignorance to end, but it will always exist. It's the nature of being human, everyone posesses ignorance of some form but regardless strive for the better.