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12-06-2008, 03:44 PM #1Senior Member
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Couple of things... first, while flowering use some blackstrap molasses in your nute mix, second as was suggested dry and cure properly..that will help, third, you don't say how your smoking it....what are you using?? joints?? bowl?? what?? I have found that a waterpipe can make even the nastiest weed palletable. and finally, its a lot easier to grow dirty...its a lot less expensive, and you get great results.
BTW... you don't say what the weed tastes like.... is it real heavy on chlorophyl?? or heavy nute taste?? or??Mississippi Steve Reviewed by Mississippi Steve on . Getting ready to quit for good! Before I rip down my grow room and throw out all my gear I figured I'd check with the experts here and see if they have any advice. I've been growing using hydro for nearly a year. I just harvested my last batch 1 week ago. My first 2 grows using Foxfarm gave me great yields, about 7 oz from 3 plants on each grow.My 1st batch were Mandela Hasberry beans and the 2nd Joey weed AK47xCinderella99. This last grow was Dutch Passion Blueberry. My problem is all the herb taste like crap. I flush the Rating: 5
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12-06-2008, 04:41 PM #2Senior Member
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Dude, don't give up-you know you'll regret it. Pissing away 4 mos I know really sucks. I know it is some simple shit your missing. Very unlikely all three strains were just dogshit genetics. Fill us in on your entire process/methods and supplies. Are there any signs of any stressors in the cycle? Are they very healthy throughout? Are the buds that taste like ass thick nugs or kinda small and wispy? I see you mentioned the different strains you tried, you know the same process may not be as effective on one breed as another and the run times are diff as well. Also as I just learned from switching to a diff nute, they are rarely the same blend or strenth. 1/2 strenth on one nute may starve a plant and another may be toxic depending on a whole slew of variables. (PH, lamp watts, veg time, temp, feed schedule, water quality, substrate) Tap or well water also changes a process depending on the type of TDS in it. Most wells contain more iron and sulfur than municipal scources. Some city water contains an ass-load of calcium that can work into a lockout situation if nutes contain high levels designed for RO water and your not careful with the Ph down.(this was my prob) Bad thing is...these girls sometimes don't tell the truth about what's wrong so avoiding pissing her off like any woman is best advised. I am 3 wks from starting another run in which I will be trying the formula top the hydro page that is a tried and true process. Give it a try before you give up, worst can happen is you learn the gro show is not for you or you find that little fuck-up and the next run blows your mind with the ickiest of the sticky.:stoned:
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12-06-2008, 04:43 PM #3Member
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Does the crap taste mean it taste like grass or hay? I need more description on the taste
What is your hydro setup?
Where are the pics?
Do you check them under a scope to see when they are ready to rock?
They should be yellowing hardcore by the time you chop, maybe try a second flush on day 5 of flushing?
And if your willing to give up after a year.....?
my .02
Booya
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12-06-2008, 05:05 PM #4OPJunior Member
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Guys,
Thanks very much for the reply's and the great ideas. All I'm using in my hydro set-up is the Pure Blend Pro grow and when flowering the Pure Blend Pro Bloom, nothing else. The taste is a chemical harsh taste which I thought indicated I wasn't getting the nutes out of the plants. All 3 harvests were large, full, thick buds that look killer. I don't have a camera so I can't post any pics. I'm vegging for about 5 weeks in a separate grow room using CFL's. Then switching to a 400 Watt HPS in the Grow room. Both systems use drip emitters and I do have PH and TDS meters. Like I stated previously I use tap water that has a TDS of 110. I know I'm being a pussy, I don't want to quit, I love herb. It's just i so disappointed 11 or so months with all that work and money and nothing to show for it. This last harvest I flushed every other nute change which is around 2 weeks. I stopped feeding the girls with 10 days left till harvest and flushed, then fed them only water, changing the res every other day for the 10 days. the strange thing is the plants were still nice and green when I finally harvested. That tells me something is wrong.
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12-06-2008, 05:21 PM #5OPJunior Member
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i just took all the buds hanging, that have been drying for the last 5 days and put them in brown paper bags to finish the dry, before moving them into my curing jars. I noticed that everyone of the stems was hollow is that normal? Also on my previous harvest using Foxfarm nutes I noticed that the hydroton had the white nutrient salt all over them, where on the harvest all the Hydroton looks clean. Maybe with a month of curing the buds won't be so bad. Thanks again for all the advice.
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12-06-2008, 05:29 PM #6Senior Member
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A harsh metallic taste and super quick burn? Like overdry weed just fries right up? Then you haven't gotten your nutes out.
I use Pro Blend and as long as I flush no problems. But hydroton is notorious for "hanging on" to excess salts and ferts with all it's cute litte airy holes and can cause overfert/salt build up issues. It's one of the reasons I don't use hydroton.
I say change your medium, use a good flushing product and RO water (and Cannazym) for at least a week to flush and you should be good.
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12-06-2008, 05:30 PM #7Senior Member
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then, if you're still not happy......grow in soil.
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12-06-2008, 06:11 PM #8OPJunior Member
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WeedHound,
I'm using a 3ftx3ft tray with 4" Grodan cubes, what other medium could I use to cover the Grodan cubes? Sorry if I sound dense, I just don't know what else I could use.
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12-06-2008, 06:17 PM #9OPJunior Member
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WeedHound forget my last post. I just checked out the different mediums. Something like a Bud Blanket would probably do the trick. All I need to do is make sure the roots growing out from the cubes are covered. Thanks very much for the guidance that's what I'll try.
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12-06-2008, 11:54 PM #10Senior Member
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Just a quick thought, you say you flush for 10 days and change water every other day during this process but when you go to cut them down they are still basically green? My thought might also be that the plant (for some reason) hasnt finished using up all of its own stored energy. Maybe extend flush time a touch also? Good luck man I'm with ya, just coming up on the 1 year mark and it's been a bumpy ride.
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