thats the problem, my tap water has too much shit it in... and possibly chloramine. which needs to run over a a charcol filter to be removed, on top of that im using organic medium, happy frog soil. so chloramine and organics may not go well, and who knows about taste and harshness with final product... the seedling and cloning only statement for R/O i know is wrong, because u can add 1 teaspoon of calmag to RO and now its PERFECT water(which is why im considering an RO system). but i already have the supplies for a tank with tap water going through a filter. plus oxygenating the water a plus for fishtank water...