thanks zandor and torog, i have checked out both the links you have gave me, they are both very interesting, so thanks great help, hows this for another question, if my pain relief comes from the weed i smoke, and the strengh of the weed is parramount to the amount of thc glands, then would hash be excelent for my pain as its nearly 100% thc glands, do you think that i will get more wrecked on hash, my weed is very strong and blasts me for ages, is the hash gonna knock my head off, everytime i read or look at hash i know i gotta do it