hi torog, yes these crosses are extreamly helpfull with pain releif, i have been working with mainly these for about 2 years now, so there pretty much reliable and predictable, i have been growing for about ten years now and out of all the plants i have grown these have been the most usefull for pain relief, sleep aid,and getting me up out of my wheelchair, but best of all they make me feel great when realy i should feel shite, i guess you will know what i mean there also, i am very happy with my plants its just that i am getting a little bored with the taste, theres nothing wrong with there taste but i have been smoking it for so long it would be nice to bring a different flavour to it, i have grown many sativas and many have been loverly, but none have helped with the pain relief, i grow mainly indoors, but i do manage to get a few plants growing in the greenhouse latter in the year, this is when i grow the bigger stuff as room is an issue here, its illegal here in the uk as well mate, its realy daft, cos you can walk into a head shop here and buy the best cannabis seeds on the market legaly but ya not aloud to plant them stupid eh !!! its also legal to by majic mushrooms but ya got to say its for botanical reasons, i dont think cannabis will ever be completely legal here, i could not afford to buy my stash so i grow it instead, if you or anybody can think of a good quality sativa that deffinatly has got good pain relief qualitys then please let me know, i have searched many seed supliers and have yet to find at sativa with those qualitys, if ya want any of these seeds bro to help ya pain just let us know i will send ya some free of charge, they should be ready in a few weeks i look forword to ya next messege