........This is getting tiresome. This conversation is obviously never going to end. We have been stuck on what the definition and levels of freedom are for quite some time now.You have these weird impossible examples trying to prove your point. In each case the end result is the same, freedom being prohibited. No matter if you can get away with 999 things out of 1,000, it only takes once for your freedom to be prohibited. Unless you believe their has actually been one person in the entire span of human existence that hasn't been prohibited from doing something at some point in their life. Thus no one can ever TRULY be free. Lets have a hypothetical scenario shall we? Lets say a prisoner is in prison(of course lol) and that he is free to get up and use the bathroom when ever he wants OK? So he is free for this moment in time for this certain action. Now lets say he wants to get out of his cell and use the restroom at the citgo, but sense he is a prisoner he can't. So in this situation his freedom was prohibited.What have we learned? That just ,because someone is free in one instance doesn't mean that they are truly free in another or at all. Enough of hijacking this thread if you want to continue this conversation lets continue it by private means. To Psycho: strange and to think I think the same of you lol. The argument that we have is open ended. We can sit here all day arguing and throwing analogy's at each other. If you want to continue this discussion then please pm me.