Getting medical pot for withdrawal of more harmful drugs?

[Storm Crow]

Right now things are changing! CPS is starting to behave more sanely about cannabis. Still, many of the workers are clinging to the past just like some cops. Obviously for safety reasons, you shouldn't smoke while actually breastfeeding. But smoking during those months while breastfeeding is fine medically. (Click the link below for many studies on pregnancy, children and more...)

I would (1) get a vaporizer. No 2nd hand smoke, less smell. (2) Never use in the same room as the baby. (3) Have everything under lock and key! Baby will be walking very soon, and having no possible way for baby to get to the pot will keep CPS off your tushie! Start now, so it will be habit by the time baby is walking.

You are doing the right thing nursing! Both of my sons were nursed until around 2 years of age. And did you know that hemp seed gruel (ground seeds cooked like oatmeal) is, in some African tribes. the #1 choice for a weaning food? Seems it is extremely good for you! Don't let anyone convince you to switch the baby to bottles! Breast is best! :thumbsup:

And sweetie, you would have gotten more replies if you had made this its own thread! Don't be shy about it- it's a valid and important question!


Now back to the topic!

MPL, I beg to differ! Cannabis was the #1 detox drug until prohibition! Here are a few studies for you-

Cannabis substitution
Clinical Studies and Case Reports

Cannabis as a Substitute for Alcohol
CCRMG

Crack heads and roots daughters: The therapeutic use of cannabis in Jamaica (cocaine)
Clinical Studies and Case Reports

There are more in the list, but 3 is enough. And I've personally have seen many folks use it as a way to get off other drugs- tobacco, heroin and alcohol, as well as just for coming down off speed.

Of those drugs, I only use alcohol occasionally- New Years was my last drink and more than 4 months between that one and the one before it. There is an open bottle of vodka in my kitchen- sitting untouched since New Years. This is significant since I am an alcoholic. With cannabis, I can take an occasional drink and not get re-addicted. Without it- I easily "fall back into the bottle". I smoke a lot of pot and have little desire for alcohol. (I'm also a much nicer person on weed.)

Good luck to all of you!

Granny :hippy:

Storm Crow Reviewed by Storm Crow on 02-10-2009. Getting medical pot for withdrawal of more harmful drugs? Please mods, I am doing my best to keep this in the rules as possible. I am not talking about the other drugs that I did specifically, only that they were prescribed, and that they were opiates. I go through severe withdrawal if I discontinue my usage. I do not want methadone or any of the other opiate "substitutes", because they are still just opiates. Weed makes almost all the symptoms reduce, but I have to be really toking to get a benefit. To a point that I cannot afford the amount Rating: 5

[Markass]

off topic, but the only way I've managed to ever quit smoking tobacco was with cannabis..It certainly keeps my head straight, nausea reduced, and appetite up while going through withdrawals..cannabis is god's medicine..

[MPLSweedman]

ok drug addicts have addictive personalities, meaning that there will ALWAYS be something they will be addicted to

if you take away the heroin, maybe he will start going to the casino every night or to the bar every night or get addicted to anything. there is no cure for that

substituting marijuana just replaces a more dangerous addiction, for opiate addicts this may be the only means of recovery but it is definitely not a point to be boasted about when debating someone on the legalization of marijuana

[painretreat]

Baby Lov: Try moving your question to the medical thread. WE've had some other questions about the same. Plus, I think we may have some in the women's section. Good luck to you and admire your concern. Granny pretty much said it all! I am not familiar with legal buds, but cannabis should be legal!

ok drug addicts have addictive personalities, meaning that there will ALWAYS be something they will be addicted to

if you take away the heroin, maybe he will start going to the casino every night or to the bar every night or get addicted to anything. there is no cure for that

substituting marijuana just replaces a more dangerous addiction, for opiate addicts this may be the only means of recovery but it is definitely not a point to be boasted about when debating someone on the legalization of marijuana

If we are talking Activism, let's move it there. Detox from gambling is less physically irritating. I'd rather walk one step at a time than jump off a 40 story building to get to the bottom. Cannabis is easy to stop and has medical benefits outside of detox. P/R

I do have a friend that has been clean for decades, successfully and I met through recovery class's. It is a lifelong dedication. You can't lump everyone into a category. Even though I would like to put gamblers in one all to themselves! That is totally psychological and I have seen physical effects. :rastasmoke:

[cigarettes42]

here is a great forum for opiate detox.
Opiate Detox Recovery

some people say marijuana isnt a good alternative to help coping with withdrawls and addiction, i am not one of those persons. i have used opiates before and had mild withdrawls from it and used mmj to help me cope with those symptoms. it helped me a great deal! but on the other hand my friend has gone deep into opiates and had not worked for him. it had made him want opiates more. he was on suboxone and that didnt even help him out either, he just did more till he could feel the effects then stop takin suboxone all together. from all my friends experiences with methadone and suboxone made their addiction worst cause they say its harder to get off that drug than the opiate itself, but some people swear by it. the only way to do it is if you have the want and desire to quit. everyone is different. if your addiction is high then i would suggest something else than medical marijuana. i hate to say it cause i think they are kind of cultish but NA and AA are a big help to a lot of people, but again it is up to you. and god bless you for acknowledging your problem and dealing with it. that is one of the hardest part of addiction!

[painretreat]

cig42: I guess it is different for all people. Stevie Nicks couldn't get off the med they gave her to get off the opiates. I found I was on that med, quit it. When I told my doc, he told me--it depends on the person. Pretty much an addict will be one. I personally, can take mmj and not take anything else. Unfortunately, due to medical reason's--I have to have something to be able to walk more than a few steps and a wheelchair is no option for me!

I do know people that use mmj that use to be into heavy recreational use of just about everything. I'd say, if you are substituting mmj for opiates, go for it! It is certainly more harmless than the opiates. I would not feel guilty.

Some of us are just born with that genetic make-up we need to have something even if we don't have a medical problem. We all need to accept that! That is 'switching' from one bad addiction to something fun and certainly good for you in a lot of ways.

I've been to 12 step programs, etc. Problem with them is, they will tell you to leave mmj alone, as well! I have a pal that is in NA, AA you name it! He stopped coming around when I started mmj! Told me to leave it alone! He was wrong!

Yes, Methadone and any oxy 'things' are hard to get off of. Mmj is much better to be on and for some of us, easy to do and leave the rest in the bottle. Even with crippling pain!

It ultimately comes to personal choice and your body's chemistry! I would guess a Sativa may increase the pain and problem, so I'd stay away from non-medical stuff and stick to Indica's.

If you want to use mmj to get off opiates and then slowly quit mmj, you can do it also. If you find yourself at the local bar every night, you may certainly be a person that needs NA or AA. It can help! Meaning, you want to be clean no matter what. Been there and don't subscribe to it. Some need NA that want to stop mmj, as well. There is no perfect answer. But, mildly to answer the question is: Yes! and Granny has all the facts there for everyone!

Did the breastfeeding post get moved, I hope! It is always an interesting topic and the other threads on it are great! Hope to see it over there!