Quote Originally Posted by redtails
The "nug" as you refer to it is better tasting, smelling, feeling weed than commercial. It's been handled better after harvest, trimmed better, usually grown better with better genetics. If you've ever grown, or really even smoked much at all you can tell...Because of the amount of time and care it takes to produce the dank, a lot of mass growers settle for lower grade final product because it's not worth the effort to make it better.

I don't think you understand how little it takes to turn potentially great bud into almost garbage weed. When growing on a large scale there's bound to be mistakes like hermaphrodites, improper harvesting/drying times, little to no cure, damaged trichomes from rough/hasty handling, etc. Just because it's a high potency strain doesn't mean that it'll be good for any grower.

The way you put it is like calling a steak a steak, no matter what cut or how fresh it is. If you can taste, smell, feel, and see the difference then why don't you accept it? If you can't then I'm sorry for you because it's obvious when you get the good stuff.
It isn't 5-6oz:1oz; it's 8-9oz:1oz*
Also, it isn't calling a steak a steak. It's paying $15 for a Filet Mignon from an "okay" restaurant instead of $150 for a steak that may only be twice as good from a top-of-the-line restaurant. Even if it clearly tastes better, has been taken care of, is more emotionally satisfying, it still isn't really worth anywhere near the money, and the people who choose to buy it will always be grossly overpaying. The difference is that nug is sold at a market value that is supposedly at least somewhat worth it.

So have we all agreed that "garbage weed" is, at worst, 10% potency (as described by seedbanks; I don't really know what exactly that means), and that, on average, nug will probably only double that (20%)?

I'd rather buy an oz of some kb than 5 or 6 oz of brick for the same price: it smokes way smoother & tastes better, doesn't smell like cat piss or something awful like that, takes a lot less to get to the sweet spot, the high lasts at least an hour as opposed to 15 minutes or so, has way better "bag appeal", and is way less likely to have unknown additives. It feels a lot cleaner and nicer without the stress headaches. Not to mention the smokable weight per oz...seeds weigh like 1/6th of a gram last time I checked so with 30+ seeds in an oz of brick you're only getting maybe 23 grams minus the stems if you're lucky. Plus at least with me I'm less tollerant of the better grade, meaning it keeps doing it's job instead of having to smoke more each time to achieve the same effect.
Assuming THC content was relatively the same, the highs should have very similar durations, unless you can identify any other specific reasons to suggest otherwise.

What do you mean by "stress headaches"? I would assume that if commercially grown crop gave you headaches over nug, it was probably the "additives" that you spoke of.

Smokable weight per oz might actually be lower in nug, even considering the seeds in commercial, since the strong odor and sometimes even stickiness indicates it wasn't properly dried.

I hope this helps to educate you on the economics of the trade and why better quality is worth more...
I'm trying to prove that the difference in highs is mostly just the placebo effect. Yes, I felt like I could tell the difference between commercial and nug, but I was also always informed before coming to that conclusion, so I was expecting a difference.

Also, speaking from experience is deceptive for the very reason I'm trying to prove. YOU are not a credible source, because you are under the impression there really IS a difference and therefore are far more likely to fall victim to the placebo effect. (You = general audience)

Quote Originally Posted by RelaxaBIT
also, wtf is a l33t smoker? that's probably the gayest shit i've ever heard. some high school bullshit
A l33t smoker is a "seasoned pro," a "veteran," etc., who takes on an elitist attitude. Anyone who claims to be a l33t smoker better know what they're talking about or admit when they're unsure, otherwise they'll look like a fool when they're proven wrong. I guess experience hasn't taught them as much as they thought . Also, do your math right. It isn't paying 75% more... It's paying 750-900% more...