veg help needed / Where am I screwing up?

[stinkyattic]

You're drowning them. Plants should NEVER be in constantly-wet conditions unless a) they are cattails or b) you grow DWC.
Also Rockwool must be pre-soaked to pH 6 before use, and peat pellets become mad acidic when they are kept constantly wet and both problems can kill your seedlings.
You are using the wrong kind of light. You need CFLs, Tube flouros (daylight or cool white for either), or a MH.

You gotta read the grow guide linked in my signature.

stinkyattic Reviewed by stinkyattic on 11-24-2008. veg help needed / Where am I screwing up? I have several seedlings going. There were all started in peat pods. All of them were started in germ at the same time. Some popped and started to grow right away, and others are just now starting to pop. I have moved all the ones that have popped from the shallow peat pan to putting the peat into the center of 4 inch xx and moved them all to a 6 inch deep pan. All the while, these have been under a regular incandescent light. I understand why they are longish, and thin because of this Rating: 5

[serpentine5]

I gotta use what I have....

I am in the process of building a room for veg and bloom but I am currently stuck on the wall and hidden door. I cant get to skinning it until this friday or so providing the weather allows me to set up the table saw outside to do it all, then once the wall and door are skinned up I can start on the veg cabinet.
I have three four foot floros put to the side to go into the cabinet.
I am looking at building a cabinet that will be about 56 inch wide, 30 inch deep, and 36 inch high to use for vegging. The 3 floros will go in and be adjustable. My biggest concern is keeping it warm because it will be in a very cool part of a basement.


As for PH... no... I did not soak the wool in 6.0. And I do not have a way to check the levels, the water i have been using is straight tap water. You think the curling is from the PH being too high?

[stinkyattic]

I gotta use what I have....

More important, you should find out what you need and how to use it before popping the seeds, and determine if what you have will even work.
NO aluminum or other corrodable metals near your plants or their water!
The leaf damage could be from improper pH, yes. If you are using a hydroponic medium like RW, you have to run it like hydroponics, which is with the pH set to 6.0 +/- 0.2 for both the medium and the water you give it. Once roots are coming out of the cube and you plant it in dirt, with the top showing!!!!!, you can treat it more like a normal soil grow.

[serpentine5]

I have 3 of the 9 showing roots on the bottom of the RW... When I transplant should I remove the RW? or leave it and plant it into the soil too?

I was under the impression that seedlings wanted the PH to be around neutral. My tap water is supposed to be at neutral.

Hopefully I will be able to get this wall finished and get started on the veg station.

[disrupt86]

if you stared in rw stay in it,trying to remove those fragile roots is with out a doubt going to kill yo shit.only you can figure out what your tap water ph is and what it contains. never start a grow unless you have exactly what your plants need to survive. using inferior crap is like a child growing up in a closet with out light and expecting them to function normally when released into society,its just not gonna happen.finish the construction,read then read some more,then read a little more , last but not least get proper equipment, then enjoy the world of trial and error and being pissed that you destroyed yet another crop,and then finally one day you will be growing the sweetest shit around.

[JeffersonBud]

Get a water report from your local water/power company. It helps a lot.

[serpentine5]

Ok, Got them into soil now.... had them under a 150watt HPS.
Just tonight I put them under the 400 MH.
Looking much better if I say so myself.

The soil is a special mix... tested at proper levels of everything, and the nutes are all natural.... so no burning or over feeding.

First pix are of them tonight under the HPS:

[serpentine5]

More still under HPS

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Now under MH

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And the last pic tonight.....