im with loc-nar on the homemade thing...i made my dwc system for like 5 bucks for 5 plants. very easy, get some 1 or 2 gallon containers. as for the lighting...im with you niceguy on the lighting issue 1. i cant afford hps right now and 2. i have a potential heat issue in a small space. i am going to execute my first grow in years with only flouro's and i hope that is works in my favor...which brings me to my next post ;]