Why I, an ultra-liberal, oppose abortion

[overgrowthegovt]

True that mate. I'm pro-choice but god DAMN, if someone really wants to cut a 6 pound body out of themselves, they really need help. Jesus, even getting thrown down the stairs halfway through is better than THAT, and that's sad. But then, I'm all for contraception. Don't want a baby? Pretty easy to avoid it; use a rubber or get on birth control (just make sure you take it right, nothing worse than fucking a girl and having her say "Did I take my pill today? .....yeah, probably.")

Oh yeah, I'm all for contraception, of course...nothing would be better for Africa or India than several million air-dropped rubbers.

I feel very strange being pro-life when I despise basically every single other conservative viewpoint....that's why I had to specify in the thread title, so as not to be assumed to be an ultra-Christian gun-collector or anything like that.

[DaBudhaStank]

...nothing would be better for Africa or India than several million air-dropped rubbers.

hahahahahahah. Don't forget China bro, they like to get rid of little girls since they aren't as effective on the rice paddies as boys. Now they have a serious population problem because their men outnumber their women by 30 million. Some fucked up shit.

[overgrowthegovt]

hahahahahahah. Don't forget China bro, they like to get rid of little girls since they aren't as effective on the rice paddies as boys. Now they have a serious population problem because their men outnumber their women by 30 million. Some fucked up shit.

Seems like free love is the only answer to that one...can't give 30 million guys going without some tail; need to share the available supply.

[FeedmeWeed]

Wow. am I the only one who finds the hypocrisy of this issue to be ironic?

We (Cannabis enthusiasts) have been punished, prosecuted, persecuted and oppressed for many years because of our CONSENT to partake in an activity. However, certain other people feel this activity is "bad" and "harmful" and that it can hurt us. These people feel the need to tell us that WE, the consenting individuals can no longer smoke our herb because THEY feel it is bad.

now to abortion. I am not particularly fond of it and would avoid having one at all costs. However, do I feel that I need to shove my values down someone else's throat? no, because I'm not a hypocritical douche.

moral of the story: don't try to push your values on other people, regardless of how important you think your values are. We as a community cannot legally smoke because other people think it is bad. Is this fair? no, so dont perpetuate the problem by forcing your shitty values on other people.

if you think abortion is bad, thats fine; don't have one and everything will be fine.

[apocolips31]

A fetus is a parasitic entity feeding off it's host, and the host has the right to eject that freeloading parasite from her womb at any time.

With that logic lets go ahead and kill every crippled or mentally disabled person.

[McDanger]

With that logic lets go ahead and kill every crippled or mentally disabled person.

Once we get socialized health care it will start.

[McDanger]

I feel very strange being pro-life when I despise basically every single other conservative viewpoint....that's why I had to specify in the thread title, so as not to be assumed to be an ultra-Christian gun-collector or anything like that.[/QUOTE]

Why do you have a problem with freedom loving gun collectors?

[psychocat]

Wow. am I the only one who finds the hypocrisy of this issue to be ironic?

We (Cannabis enthusiasts) have been punished, prosecuted, persecuted and oppressed for many years because of our CONSENT to partake in an activity. However, certain other people feel this activity is "bad" and "harmful" and that it can hurt us. These people feel the need to tell us that WE, the consenting individuals can no longer smoke our herb because THEY feel it is bad.

now to abortion. I am not particularly fond of it and would avoid having one at all costs. However, do I feel that I need to shove my values down someone else's throat? no, because I'm not a hypocritical douche.

moral of the story: don't try to push your values on other people, regardless of how important you think your values are. We as a community cannot legally smoke because other people think it is bad. Is this fair? no, so dont perpetuate the problem by forcing your shitty values on other people.

if you think abortion is bad, thats fine; don't have one and everything will be fine.

Well said. :thumbsup:

[overgrowthegovt]

Wow. am I the only one who finds the hypocrisy of this issue to be ironic?

We (Cannabis enthusiasts) have been punished, prosecuted, persecuted and oppressed for many years because of our CONSENT to partake in an activity. However, certain other people feel this activity is "bad" and "harmful" and that it can hurt us. These people feel the need to tell us that WE, the consenting individuals can no longer smoke our herb because THEY feel it is bad.

now to abortion. I am not particularly fond of it and would avoid having one at all costs. However, do I feel that I need to shove my values down someone else's throat? no, because I'm not a hypocritical douche.

moral of the story: don't try to push your values on other people, regardless of how important you think your values are. We as a community cannot legally smoke because other people think it is bad. Is this fair? no, so dont perpetuate the problem by forcing your shitty values on other people.

if you think abortion is bad, thats fine; don't have one and everything will be fine.

But see, it's wrong for people to force their values on others if it pertains to something that harms nobody else....drug use, prostitution, and other victimless crimes should not be prohibited because that is, as you say, an unjust imposition of values. However, if the action in question does harm to somebody else, it is and should be criminal....we should be allowed to hurt ourselves, but not to go out and shoot somebody. Fetuses are not given the respect they deserve as a living human being that ought to be protected from arbitrary murder. I suppose murder laws are a case of values being unjustly pushed too, eh?

[psychocat]

But see, it's wrong for people to force their values on others if it pertains to something that harms nobody else....drug use, prostitution, and other victimless crimes should not be prohibited because that is, as you say, an unjust imposition of values. However, if the action in question does harm to somebody else, it is and should be criminal....we should be allowed to hurt ourselves, but not to go out and shoot somebody. Fetuses are not given the respect they deserve as a living human being that ought to be protected from arbitrary murder. I suppose murder laws are a case of values being unjustly pushed too, eh?

I think you will find that the laws covering abortion are very different to those covering murder.
Just because it wouldn't be your choice does not mean you have a right to impose your choices on others.