First attempt at a 24-hour "Martian Method"

[Dogznova]

Here is 28 days of "Tub O Clones".

The first two pic's are under the 400w HPS. The second two pic's are using a white cfl light. The third pic is under 4 red inc's and 2 red cfl's.

The current "Martian Method" 24 hour schedule is.....

10 hours 400w 2K HPS (our blue light source)

3 hours 126w 4/25w red inc party bulbs 2/13w red cfl's (PAD light source)

11 hours SID (standard indoor darkness)

We took away some more PAD lights (on time), as noted above, a 1/2 hour. The girls seem to be doing great......................

More of "Tub O Clones" next week

[Dogznova]

New "Tub O Clones 2"

The next batch my uncle and I will use a 400w MH light for the first two weeks then switch to a HPS for the rest of the flowering duration.

This is not going to happen this time, Sorry folks. One of the reason for this is that both batches have to be in the same flower room. If we overshoot the SID time in our new batch "Tub O Clones 2" with extra PAD lights (on time) then our first batch "Tub O Clones" current SID time will also be overshot because of the PAD red light bleed. We simply can't block off one of the areas to prevent this right now. Plus we will need to get another timer. LOL

Most of the clones here spent 3 weeks in a EZ cloner then 3 weeks in cups under 18 hours of T5. These girls are about 8 to 10 inches tall on the average. This will be somewhat of a good comparison to the first batch (as far as height and stretch goes). Since this batch will go directly into full "Martian Method" flower and there will be no overshooting of the SID time with PAD lights for the first three weeks like our first "Tub O Clones" did.

The first pic is a group shot of "Tub O Clones 2". The second pic is under 4 25w red party bulbs and 2 red cfl's (same as the other area).

This "Martian Method" 24 hour schedule will be on the same timer as "Tub O Clones".

10 hours 400w 2K HPS (our blue light source)

3 hours 126w 4/25w red inc party bulbs 2/13w red cfl's (PAD light source)

11 hours SID (standard indoor darkness)

More of "Tub O Clones 2" next week

[farredeyed]

Thanks for keeping us updated, Are the PAD lights shut off during regular daylight hours?

edit: i know ive been following this long enough i should know this but i get really mixed up in all the terminology PAD SID PAR ET TU BRUTE ?

[Dogznova]

Yes they are. I know I get confused also...:thumbsup:

[Dogznova]

"Tub O Clones".

The flowers are doing good. From the looks of things these flowers should be done in about 6 more weeks. I will be cutting some of the fan leaves before next week's pic's.

The 24 hour "Martian" schedule is still the same.

More of "Tub O Clones" next week :thumbsup:

[Dogznova]

"Tub O Clones 2"

Not much to say here. These girls have now flowered one full week.

If my uncle and I have hit the SID target time correctly with this 24 hour "Martian" time schedule, then there should be popcorn buds on the girls next week. We shall see.

More of "Tub O Clones 2" next week :thumbsup:

[Mother]

Looks great Dog!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Dogznova]

Thanks Mother.

[salmayo]

Are you running 2 sets of 2 tubs each, which is 4 tubs total?

Are you running the Red Compact fluorescents mixed evenly throughout the growing area, or are you putting the Red CFL's over the vegging #2's tubs?

Also do you have some king of divider between the #1's area and the #2's area?

Mylar and other curtains would not contain the Far Red as much as the Red, but it would help separate the two areas spectrally.

You can successfully run a vegging and a flowering area with minimul light dividers/divission/separation, but the more the spectrums are separated the better. If you're running the same timing schedule in both, then separating the spectrums is the key to separating the results, since you can have vegging under one PAD spectrum and Flowering under another PAD spectrum while using the same scheduling timers to run both.
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It looks like the first batch (#1's) are at the popcorn stage in certain ways to me. One thing to look for is the white hairs don't fill into the nice full fuzzy balls found on normal flowering formations. Another sign could be the early formation of trichomes on the leaf structures.

The main thing to watch for is the slowing of the growth rate, moreso than other typical signs of excess darkness length, with the PAD mix type you're using.

Take Care, Sal.

[Dogznova]

Are you running 2 sets of 2 tubs each, which is 4 tubs total?.

Yes there are 4 sets of tubs. 2 in each area.

Are you running the Red Compact fluorescents mixed evenly throughout the growing area, or are you putting the Red CFL's over the vegging #2's tubs?

The #2 tubs are flowering. We did not extend the PAD lights (on time) in tubs #2 because of light bleed into the tub #1 section. Both sets of tubs #1 and #2 are on the same trimmers and are divided by a side wall (but not the fronts). So instead of using some kind of blocking wall in the front at this time we just put tub o clones #2 into flowering.

AS far as the red cfl's go, There are two 13 watt red cfl's per section. In tub O clones #1 they are on each side of the hood. In tub o clones #2 they are more in the middle of the hood.
Both areas have the PAD lights on light movers with the HPS hood. So I guess they are being somewhat distributed evenly

Also do you have some king of divider between the #1's area and the #2's area?

Just a side wall at this point.

You can successfully run a vegging and a flowering area with minimul light dividers/divission/separation, but the more the spectrums are separated the better. If you're running the same timing schedule in both, then separating the spectrums is the key to separating the results, since you can have vegging under one PAD spectrum and Flowering under another PAD spectrum while using the same scheduling timers to run both.

We are going to work on this for the future.

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It looks like the first batch (#1's) are at the popcorn stage in certain ways to me. One thing to look for is the white hairs don't fill into the nice full fuzzy balls found on normal flowering formations. Another sign could be the early formation of trichomes on the leaf structures.

They look on schedule for 3 weeks of flowering to us. I know the blueberry looks small. It doesn't have verry large yields.

The main thing to watch for is the slowing of the growth rate, moreso than other typical signs of excess darkness length, with the PAD mix type you're using.

If they start to slow in growth. Should the PAD light (on time) go up or down?