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02-11-2009, 08:24 PM #11
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First attempt at a 24-hour "Martian Method"
P.S. Congratulations are in order for Dogsnova as well, you've made the Beta Grade! Keep those pictures coming, they look great!
Originally Posted by Dogznova
Sorry about the bandwidth overload Dog, too much time swapping heads with RAUBER and I'm still in lightspeed overload mode from throwing all these posts between threads.
Again, the short version is, you don't need to now all the micro info on everything, you just need to know how to tune in the timer, up or down on the equivalent SID.
And, just because Mother has a Time Factor, doesn't mean it's accurate enough to just "Plug-N-Play" the time numbers. Her Time Factor approximation is surprisingly good, especially for her first time out.
Assuming a standard commercial type plant such as Skunk#1 (THE old school standard).
Originally Posted by Mother
I figured yields would be low, with all the timer adjustments dialing it in, but like I said the second time should be much better, given your knowledge from this experience.
Assuming a standard plant subject, tendencies and trends are very important to observe and consider.
"they were fluffy on top of that, so there really isn't a whole lot." These are the signals I look for in the plant. In terms of grow spectrum your best yeilds will tend to be in a range of Red to Far Red ratios where (low R/FR, high FR/R) the buds are just below the stretch (fluffy) responce where energy considered wasted on stem elongation (stretch/fluff), and the other end of the range of R/FR ratios where (high R/FR, low FR/R) the plants don't move fast enough, just as with AD speed (AD knowledge is applicable to spectral growth rate).
But I still recommend you leave the spectrum alone and learn to adjust the timer first. I do use many spectrums and timer settings to get from early flower through final harvest, but I'm here learning about the rest of you so we at Temporal Photonics can convey information to the public in manner they can use. In other words I'm comparatively OVERLY familiar with all the dynamics an use they to the full extent (multiple spectrum, multiple timers, multiple schedules, and combining multiple techniques). Which is good news for the rest of you, since there's still plenty to learn, assuming you like learning new stuff. As for the "Just give us the answers" crowd, Halloween will be here soon enough!
"They're decently crystalled, so what's there is pretty potent." I assume you have sampled for potency, and I predicted you were still in the zone for good potency. But, fluffy buds with low potency is a sign that the plants need more equivalent SID. I've done grow experiments on turning the timing slowy from 12/12 up to 14/10 on standard SID 12/12 type grows searching strain genetics for higher yielding strains that retain potency at higher growth rates, and most commercial plants will do a revegging stretch with plenty of trichome to see, but no potency, since the THC execution gene aren't getting hit by the shorter night clock run. Trichome production may be up, even with lots of resin and even with plenty of aroma, but THC content could still be low if the equivalent SID time is not long enough for the proper THC gene to be executed.
"It's not as long lasting as it should be, but it's pretty close. I'd say 75 or 80% there." I'm a pure THC snob, so my views are probably different than most, and a fast up then down short high is actually a sign of a high THC low CBD resin profile that I like. Different gene location executions produce different
resins, as long as the THC is getting produced I'm happy, my two cents worth.
"There's not much aroma unless I rub it a bit, but even then it's not very rich smelling." Again, if the genes aren't executed (often or much) the resins aren't produced, aroma. Also, some of the more Skunky smells come from later oxidation of the resins AFTER they are produced/secreted by the plant.
THC has no Aroma/Smell, and it must be over 120F to melt and over 300F to vaporize (vaping!).
As I said, I'm (we are) after THC first and formost, which is my (our) preferences, so it's extremely valuable for us to get your interpretations of these things. I also grow Sativas that have low odor and prefer low odor strains as opposed to dealing with air scrubber issues.
As a rule, less aroma/odor indicates that the final stages of ripeness, for standard type plants, has not been reach yet. Which would indicate that you would want more equivalent SID time, if you want to reach this stage.
You should get better results the 2nd time arround. While these currently harvested plants sufferred a lot of timer experimentation and didn't get much actual flowering time in. You may even notice different potency and resin characteristic at different locations on the plants and in the locations of the buds, since parts that developed under different timer schedules can have different characteristics of potency/ripeness.
(looking up) Oops! Theres another monster post problem manifestation.
Sorry, been looking forward to you harvest results. Got a case of anxious little boy going on! :jointsmile:
Keep up the good work. Keep up the fun stuff.
By the time Halloween rolls arround you guys are gonna be monsters!
With more fun still to spare for Halloween!
Take Care, Sal.
P.S. Congratulations are in order for Dogsnova as well, you've made the Beta Grade! Keep those pictures coming, they look great!
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