Here is pics from the last batch I was going post before the crash. These flowers were 5 weeks old and on a light schedule of 10/3/10/1. Basically 10 hours hps, 3 hours red inc/cfl (sun down), 10 hours SID, 1 hour red inc/cfl (sun up). The flowers under this schedule also finished up a week or so behind what they should of. Right now we are doing a batch on 12/12 normal hps and SID just to make sure something hasn't changed. The new batch dose seem to be back on schedule. It seems when ever we add red to the mix we also add to our flowering time. I think we are missing the correct amount of far red in the AD. Sal what do you think? We just can't seem to get the flowers to finish under the martian method at the same rate as SID would.