Quote Originally Posted by salmayo
Not ruling out IR effects, but FR seems to be the better one to go with at the moment (Martian Science changes with progress).
Thank you. That was the answer I was looking for..

Quote Originally Posted by salmayo
I think it was "in the same 24 hour cycle...", I am typo king after all.
No not a typo on your part at all. You did say 24 hours. I was Just speaking about the plan of attack next time for my uncle and I. Me typed before me explained (hate when that happens). We want to maximize our HID experience using the martin method (that has a nice ring to it). I know we will be different then most here. But I think alot of HPS growers like my uncle and I could gain from the martin method. Heck I think all growers will gain from this method. But with that said. HID growers don't have the ability to run individual light spectrums (so to speak) we could but that's just adding to the wattage I would think. LED growers will. T5 growers can do it much easer then HID growers by using different Kelvin temp tubes and with blue and red tubes ect.. Both of those type of growers have a spectral advantage over the single light source HID growers IMO.. BUT I think the martin method can change some of that. For example...We are using the 2k HPS bulb and red martin nights to flower now. BUT our plants are NOT flowering under a 2 k spectrum at all. It's more like 1,100 K if that IMO. When the 200w of red inc.'s were on it seemed like it was about a 500 K (do they make that strong of warm k bulb lol)... I believe one of the best parts about the martin method for HID growers will be shifting of the 24 hour k spectrum using martin nights. Now one might ask. Why would I want to use red light or any other color light at night to shift my 24 hour spectrum? You might also ask. Why don't you just add it to your day time spectrum and be done with it? Well Heat, Heat, and more heat and of course the best part. You would miss out on the MARTIN AFFECT...The Martin Effects can do all kinds of fun stuff.
1. Combats stem elongation in the first two weeks of pre-flower (slamm the plant right into flowering) and gains you some time by virtually eliminating some plants two week pre-flower time. (ours did)
2. Adds to the trichome production (on our plants it did).
3. Red light stimulated flower production IMO
4. Can work in garden when martin night are on (always a bonus).
5. (one of the most important IMO) Martin Nights can shift the plants 24 hour K spectrum (this will allow us to use a much higher horsepower light "more blue" during our day time) but make the plants think it's still growing under a much warmer Kelvin temp without adding heat to the day light time(alot of math going on to make this work correctly and efficiently IMO).....
6. Speed up the plants clock (when I figure that part out)
7. 8. 9. yet to be determined LOL.

Sal .....#5 we will need help with.. How much martin light and how long should the light be on with the specific bulbs we plan on using.. Next time

Quote Originally Posted by salmayo
Trading slower AD spectrum time for ND/SID time, looks like the best starting place for first timers. Even the Martian NightBreak Test trades 15 for 15 minutes to start with. Once people get that you can't just trade hour for hour with different forms of Darkness, we think they'll get what they need to embrace the power of the information here.

Another hurdle is that 12 hours of SID to us, looks like 10 hours SOD (Standard Outdoor Darkness) to the plant, but people are caught on 12 hours darkness (12/12) and uncomfortable with other (too) COMPLICATED methods or schedules.
I need to read this and re-read this lol...
Dogznova Reviewed by Dogznova on . First attempt at a 24-hour "Martian Method" In order to keep track of events, at the request of some online friends, and in order to share the love with the rest of the cannabis community, I'm starting my first grow log using the Martian Method, which I learned about from a very helpful Salmayo, here: http://www..com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=30203&highlight=Martian and it has also been discussed in another thread on this board, starting at post 1438: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/150174-perfect-led-grow-light-58.html Rating: 5