Quote Originally Posted by Dogznova
Sal when you get a chance..LOL
What do you think about the difference in red cfl's vs red inc's? Do you think it's ok to use eather or. Thanks for your time.
It's relative. It's always relative. (What do you want to use them for?)

Red CFL's are better for suppressing stem elongation and Red Inc.'s are better for stimulationg metabolism.

I've used them together and with other sources. I care less than most about where the spectrum comes from, as long as I know what it is I'M trying to get in the end.

I do like some Red CFL's, but that's more because other cheap ones use generic phophor's that emit in blue and green, which is a waste if it's just gonna get filterred out with a red coating on the tube.

I only use Red Inc.'s to fine tune and usually only past the PREFLOWER (stretch) stage. But remember, what I'm doing with Red and Far Red is ballanced and the effects totalled over the day DIFFERENTLY than others.

At your current level of available information, FAR RED makes sense.

But I think MOTHER is picking up on just how much FAR RED it would take to make a 24/12 grow even work, but THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. 24/12 IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPOSSIBLE. That's what makes it such a great teacher.

"Use what works.", "Get rid of what doesn't work." - John Demming.

In the end I think it's really about what pleases us.

You're gonna have to juggle some trade-offs whether you want to or not. Spectrum dictates what a certain timing schedule will do, but the same could be said of timing vs spectrum as well.

24/12 is the first thing everone thinks of when they think of Artificial Darkness, but the reason no-one but me and then my partner have done it, are the hardships that make it so demanding to achieve.

24/12 isn't the biggest thing we've done, just the most showy to the average audience.

And believe it or not, we are not trying to show off. We're trying to show how we think. For it is how we think, not what we thought, that led us to ALL THE ANSWERS that we (, they and you) did not already have.

Have a nice Thanksgiving everyone.

Take Care, Sal.