Quote Originally Posted by Mother
Hey Dog,
I'm not sure what you mean by crowning or whippin' into cotton candy, but the buds on my HDF plant seem to be doing something odd, and that might be it. I can't describe it exactly, but there's something odd about them. Whatever it is, it definitely seems more vegetative than flowering. I'll see if I can get a picture tonight.

Have you seen your HDF plant all the way through it's flowering stage before? If you have, What I'm am talking about is the tops of the bud lose's it's white hairs and whips up so to speak. One could mistake it for re-vegging but my experience with re-vegging a bud is it starts to stretch out and grow a lot of leaves. These buds that I think are ripening to early are not stretching yet I don't think.

As for what is causing it, I'm not sure exactly. I have a hunch that the reason is that the night clock is moving too fast and the plant doesn't sense enough night time, so it's vegging, but as to what the exact cause of that may be, I'm not sure. I have a feeling it's too much Far Red light, and probably not in an absolute sense, just the ratio is probably off.

I don't think it's too much far red light IMO. You might want to try to lower your veg light time to 11 hours on (in your case the 6500K). You might be too close to the veg/flower line with it on for 12 hours for that strain.


As for the ratio of Far Red:Red in the RedInc bulbs, I think it's about 1.15:1, give or take. I just estimate that from spectral graphs, so your guess is as good as mine. It also depends on what is considered Red and what is considered Far Red (to the plant), because shifting those ranges can change the ratio considerably on the same spectral graph. As for your CFLs being more or less red or orange, I think they're fine. You were using yellow before without any trouble, right?

Yes we were using 1 yellow cfl for two weeks way in the back ground.
I think the key will be having the ability to play with the far red and red ratios (630nm 660nm 714nm) all individually. That's the problem with red cfl's and red inc's you get what you get.