tinytoon- yea you bring up a good point. they are indeed very expensive but of coarse they claim that these are the best for beginner growers; which is what caught my attention most. but thanx again.. i will definately read, read, read, and read some more

lucifer- thanx for the link, that box looks glorious

stinkyattic- i am actually a college student, no dad yet. i currently live in an apartment and i dont wanna take the risk. but next semester i am moving into a house with a few friends. im just trying to gather some info so i can be prepared. i dont necessarily need the steathliest setup on the market.. but obviously other people will be in our house at one time or another.