Our prison

[Dream of the iris]

there is no difference. when i say "we all" i mean ALL. you, me, that rock outside, one particle in a cloud, the void of space, cannabis herself. you name it, i mean that too is a reflection of the universe. the universe is a reflection of that person.


we all reflect the world outside of us, as the world outside of us is reflecting us.

Ah, I see. We are the universe seeing itself.

On an individual basis, your internal situation reflects your external environment. So, yes, everything is connected and all is one, but you are still an individual in the whole scheme of things. Our internal situation is clearly reflected all around us in the media, the stuff we create, our systems, etc. I believe that we create the universe around us. Life is a playground with an infinite number of options to choose from. While we are the universe seeing itself create, the outside is a reflection of what goes on inside. So, yes, I would agree with you when you said, "we all reflect the world outside of us, as the world outside of us is reflecting us". Nothing is ever absolute, however, there is no one "Truth". Just many versions of it.


Oh, and yes please join the discussion. I'd love to hear from more people I'll check out that video. Looks interesting.

[apocolips31]

In the big picture we are in prison no matter what. We are tied to our one body and one mind. We are stuck on this rock flying through space. We are stuck in this universe and with this perception. So in a way you can never truly be "free". You can change your thoughts and the way you see things, but you can only see them through the 5 senses you have. So we are limited no matter what.

[Dream of the iris]

We are stuck in this universe and with this perception. So in a way you can never truly be "free". You can change your thoughts and the way you see things, but you can only see them through the 5 senses you have. So we are limited no matter what.

I would argue that the 5 senses are deceivers of reality and provide a rather poor view of it. Those who've explored astral projection and have ingested different forms of drugs/explored mediation know first hand that there are other dimensions to existence. The five senses deceive because it makes everything appear so very real and so very important. Thus, you quite literally become trapped in experience. When you go beyond the five senses you enter the world of PK and psychic ablilites. Another trap if used unwisely. Those are beyond the five senses and you enter the mythical "sixth sense" another sense that is not yet recognized by the scientific community as a whole.

Those abilities usually happen automatically once your consciousness expands to a certain degree (lets not confuse that with spiritual growth, psychic abilities are not a sign that someone is more 'spiritually aware'). So, in essence the five senses are not at all what is. There is much more then that. It just appears that this is all there is and that we truly are limited. That's part of the illusion that Buddhist, Hindus, whatever speak of.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

all parts of the body sense the world around them individually and uniquely.
given the same situation to perceive, your eyes will observe the details differently than would your stomach or your kneecap.

Each organ possesses an individual and unique sense of perception.


you didnt think hunger wasnt a perception of internal needs did you? haha!
and is boredom not a sense of your mental need for activity?

[jdmarcus59]

â??If you don't know what you are on all levels, and have no clue what you are standing up for or against, then sit down. Does the farmer care if the cattle get together and moo at him in a group, shouting that the pen is theirs and not his, and that he doesn't own them? Who is justified and what the hell are the cattle thinking? Do they really want to stand up and claim the pen of their imprisonment and holding until demise as theirs? Do you want to fight to keep the walls that contain you? Is that what the struggle and shouting is all about? Is it necessary? If they don't own you, then prove it and walk. Unplug and start living. A cow standing up in a pen to say he is free is a jack ass.â?�


Weâ??ve convinced ourselves that we are limited. We think we are small when in fact we are very large. Life is a sweet game and we all take it so seriously. We play these games, all of us. Itâ??s a role playing game and we are damned good at it. I am so and so, this is my job, I make this amount of money each year. What school did you go to? Itâ??s funny if you take a step back and really observe this process. We all do it. Most of us anyway. We play our roles good and we often forget that we are playing and not actually living. If you take a step back and observe this, you will see the humor in it all. Who decided this was the way life should be? Go to school, get a job, maybe save enough for retirement, die, repeat. Sounds a little bit like prison, doesnâ??t it? Regulated schedule, routine. A â??prison without wallsâ?�. Thatâ??s what we are in. Is this what we signed up for when we came here? To live only for the sake of surviving and to have a few moments here and there of peace and true happiness? Well, at least I get those two weeks off next summer. Something to look forward to. I guess right now kinda sucks, though. Whereâ??s the joy in life? The upliftment? The peace for godâ??s sake! Who decided it was going to be this way?

We live, learn â??factsâ?� maybe marry and have kids who do the same thing and make the same mistakes that we did and for what? What is this that we are striving for? We are striving for something, right? â??Well, you seeâ?� says the scientist, â??weâ??re trying to figure out why we are hereâ?�. OK, so what have you got so far? â??I donâ??t know, we ran out of funding. Seems that question is pretty much pointlessâ?�. That question is on an individual basis. To find it out, you have to look inward. Do you need lab equipment and millions of dollars to discover something you already know? Seems ridiculous, but thus is the state of mankind. We all have forgotten something very important. Something that will save us. And that is so simple, you wouldnâ??t believe what it is. We have forgotten ourselves. Yes, thatâ??s right. You have forgotten who You are. You have left yourself behind and some of you are saying, â??I want it back, show me the road to takeâ?�. Yet the crust in front of the eyes is so thick, you cannot see. How do you expect to see that part of yourself if you are stuck in your role as â??Me, my job, my life, my problems, mineâ?�. This prison sucks, doesnâ??t? How do we break out? I donâ??t know. Let me know if you do.

Such limited view we have. Our boundaries keep us locked, our fears stop us from ever going beyond something. It takes a courageous soul to venture past what is comfortable. But, thatâ??s how things get done. Are you content living solely to survive? Stand up and live if you are not! But the question remains. How do we stand up? How do we live? Am I not living? If you are content where you are, then that's fine. If you want more, then get more. Nothing is ever limited. Nothing.

must have been some good smoke.

[Esoteric416]

I'd say it more like: Good smoke meets good sense of Self.

Iris, have you ever read "The Holographic universe"? Alot of good info in there. Also it might help you wrap your mind around what Wolf is talking about when he says that we are creating reality at all times through all people.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

lol i wish i could be more eloquent and specific when i start talking about such matters haha but i never studied this kind of stuff extensively. i have nothing to work off of except a few religious writings from various religions and philosophies, and a whole shitload of time spent pondering reality and the nature of "the" infinite.

eventually all of reality becomes much more significant, from the lowly ant hill to the mighty Everest. as we delve deeper and deeper into infinity, we actually "catch up" to it... so to speak. think of it like a race... we are all born at the starting line, but infinity itself is way ahead at the "present" time, constantly pushing forward into the future. we start out slow, learning all that infinity has left in it's wake, one thing at a time, until either we eventually become desensitized to learning and shut off our brains like many people seem do do, or we become ever fascenated by the limitless boundaries of life that we seek more and more until we start following in the foot prints of the infinite and absorb everything infinity brings us, fresh off the assembly line. so to speak.


it is then that we become desensitised to fear itself, taking no threat to heart, awaiting death with pride, instead of worry... we learn to accept that life is, and life will be, and it makes no difference who is alive, or when they are alive, or where they are alive, because we are all alive, everywhere, all the time.

[Dream of the iris]

must have been some good smoke.

You have no idea



Esoteric, I heard of that book and wanted to read it, just never got around to it. I understand what he means though

Wolf, I didn't think of the organs as sensing anything before. But you bring up a good point. Did you get banned again? You rascal

Stigma420, bloodlines. You'd be surprised at how strong and deep bloodlines really are, from what I've read anyway . We are coming to a crossroads. This shift is a strange one, indeed. Many will not respond well to it and wars will be fought, mass confusion, paranoia. Again, go back to the original quote. Who does all this apply to? All the regulations, the Patriot Act, etc, all the things coming in the future? Does it apply to you? Are you not sovereign? They want you as a person, not the You you are. So, if you are free and want freedom, make sure you know what that is before you shout and scream. Live it. Unplug and start living. If you don't know what freedom is, then you look like a screaming child who doesn't really know what he wants. Who doesn't stand for something because all he knows is words, nothing else. That's all we know. The point of this thread was to get people thinking about that thing called freedom and what it truly means, not words, not dreams, real, true freedom. Love, peace, joy, truth all are just words. And who puts meaning behind them? We do.

[Dream of the iris]

YouTube - The AntiTerrorist on the insanity of it all Pt1. UK


YouTube - The AntiTerrorist on the insanity of it all Pt2. UK

YouTube - The AntiTerrorist on the Freeman\Strawman\Man Pt1.mov


YouTube - The AntiTerrorist on the Freeman\Strawman\Man Pt2.mov

[psychocat]

If I ever allowed myself to be the creature I truly feel I am then my liberty would be as short lived as some of the people around me. The beast within remains caged for the benefit of society but in truth I would prefer to set him free.

I am the worlds greatest predator.