Our prison

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i think that constitutes as digging too deep... peace, i would think, is a state of contentment. peace, therefore, must be different for each individual, but i would still promote it that everyone is freely able to equally experience their own preferred state of peace.

[Dream of the iris]

i think that constitutes as digging too deep...

That's hows I finds out about stuff :thumbsup:

Blinded by the light is just as bad as lost in darkness. I agree, though, that peace is for the individual to decide and experience. Many new agers/hippies will tell you that love is all you need without even knowing what the hell true love actually is! Many will promote peace and say this is how humanity is supposed to be, but how can someone say something and do another? And who the fuck are you telling me what humanity is supposed to be anyway?

This brings up another good question that I hope others will contribute to the discussion. What does it mean to be human? A myriad of experiences for all to enjoy, not one of them being real. Real in the sense that we have control over what happens, which clearly we don't. If you had control, what would you be doing right now? Would we be in such a mess? Would you be such a mess? That's not to say what you experience isn't really experienced, it's just that what you experience is the result of control. And yes, that is digging WAY too deep. I am not speaking conspiracy here, so please don't confuse what I am saying with any of that. Well, perhaps it is a conspiracy. A conspiracy of the mind to control US. And if you don't see it, perhaps you, too, should dig deep. It's always good to go there sometimes and see what you can find out.

To be human for me is to be balanced. Not blinded by the light, not lost in darkness, not controlled. A true human is a being who is beyond light and dark into the realm of creation. Sovereign. Truly sovereign. I see too many people blinded by the light and lost in darkness and not enough balance. Yes, peace is great. Yes, darkness is generally negative and not desirable. It seems that all of creation is bi polar and there has always been a conflict between dark and light. Good and evil. That middle road has always been there, though. Silently Letting the battle wage on patiently waiting until one day it is recognized.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

If you had control, what would you be doing right now?

Recreating the "right now" just as it is now.


That is what we all would do. that is what we all are doing.


We are one :thumbsup:



But that aside...

Would we be in such a mess? Would you be such a mess? That's not to say what you experience isn't really experienced, it's just that what you experience is the result of control.

if i had control, i would not change a thing, but would recognize it for what it was, and where it came from (if i had control it must come from me, after all...) and learn to understand what control meant.

[Dream of the iris]

Very awesome response!


Some thoughts:




Looking around today and really noticing people, I could sense something very common and disturbing among many. Their words, their actions, their selves are full of emotion and much of what is said is backed by fear. I see so much fear in peopleâ??s eyes, they look so lost. Thatâ??s not saying Iâ??m not lost or fearful, I am and I admit that. But I recognize something within me itâ??s there tugging at me, saying, â??Let me out!â?�, but as a wise man once said â??Look at that faded spirit that longs to act in this world, but cannot because the mind is fearful and sets boundaries everywhereâ?�. No excuses, though.

Moments of clarity followed by moments of darkness. Clarity feels like this. Vast space. Vast empty space all around. Joy and peace like Iâ??ve never experienced fill me and I see things with such clarity. It is in these moments that truly sadden me. Because while this exist for the taking, I donâ??t see anyone else taking it. Itâ??s like the stars up above. Nobody really notices it, but when you do, your reality is changed ever so slightly just by glancing up wards on a clear night. So driving down the road, watching other people lost in something, it saddens me almost to the point of tears. People donâ??t realize how beautiful they truly areâ?¦ And that is the greatest sin man has ever faced. The lack of realization to the â??Godâ?� in everyone, the Christ within, the Buddha, the whatever, itâ??s YOU. WE donâ??t realize what is inside ourselves. We can't see what WE are.

When people tell you to â??wake upâ?� what do they mean? They mean look around and see the control? Yes, but what good would that do? You see control, great. Are you living free? Do you know what freedom is? To wake up is to be aware and as pot smokers I would consider awareness to be our forte. Although, sadly, that is not true for all. But again awareness also includes awareness of all yourSelves. Everything that is you. Going back to the original quote, how can you be sure what you are standing up for when you don't even know who YOU are and what is true freedom? We have freedom of expression, but not all can express. We have freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom of this, but really what good is that when you live controlled so that quite literally your soul is crushed into submission by age 30. But all these are really just words. Nothing more. Everything is just that. Signposts, guides. Meaningless unless you live it. And there is no â??proofâ?� like living something. Whatever that may be. Freedom, love, light, peace, whatever. Live it.

If you are free, live it. If you are peaceful, live that. If you are â??enlightenedâ?�, live that. Donâ??t say and not live. Thatâ??s worse then doing nothing. Well, just as bad anyway. It is painfully clear that not many people experience these things. Not many people will in this lifetime and I do believe in reincarnation. I believe that we are on our paths, whatever that may be and for some the time is not ready to release control. To become free. To the more spiritual, â??Enlightenedâ?�. Some need control. This is becoming more and more obvious. And there is nothing harder then to watch others being controlled and not being able to do anything. And what can be done?

I could say, â??Hey man, you know your being controlled right? That ego you love so much, itâ??s a prison, manâ?�. But thatâ??s not good. Nobody likes the preacher man and for good reason. Itâ??s about space. Letting others live. They will figure it out. The info is out there, the Spirit is there driving those who are willing to listen and you are there, so all thatâ??s left is for you to listen. Itâ??s always been there. The only thing thatâ??s missing is the will of the individual and no amount of preaching and teaching will give you that. Everything you needed to know you can find within. Many a master has written books and books and books, but we are still not free? Jesus died and we are still not free. He is coming back, though right? But why? Why should he come back again? What good will that do? So we can follow again and be lead? Daddy knows best. Save me, daddy! Tell me what to do and believe! Can you see the absurdity of it all? Obama save me! Following neglects the individual and the individual is so important.

[Dream of the iris]

Recreating the "right now" just as it is now.


That is what we all would do. that is what we all are doing.

Could you elaborate on this more?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Could you elaborate on this more?

HOW? O_O


reality, as it is, right now. how do i elaborate on that? i dont even know 1% of what "that" is!


but i know, full well, on account of us all being one, that no matter who was "in charge" of reality, nothing would be any different for the reality "experiencers", only for the reality observer/creator.


because when you are faced with both infinite time and infinite power, all that is left to do is explore creation.


that leads to this. THIS. me, you, everyone in the world, RIGHT NOW, as it is now.



yeah, sure, maybe if paul franklin hill were in charge, as opposed to thomas P. fuller, the universe's hues might be shifted where reds become blues, or maybe greens become purples, maybe the timing would be different, maybe "right now" would be 10000 years forward or backward from the present time, but all events and symbols will remain the same, even if the events themselves are different, their symbols will never change, for all that is is a symbol of all else that is. we are all reflections of all that is outside of us.

We are all expressions of the all.


Nothing truly changes in a state of constant change, regardless of who's in charge.

[Dream of the iris]

we are all reflections of all that is outside of us.

I'd say whatever is outside us is a reflection of ourselves.

That just goes to show you the amount of control we have. We are so controlled, that we are literally told what to feel. Or at least, influenced to feel a certain way. I'll give you an example. Listen to a speech by your favorite president. Something really moving and patriotic. Don't really analyze anything, just listen to it. If you really listen, you might feel emotion build up. That emotion clouds judgment and thus leads to control. Now, watching television, reading a newspaper, seeing the fear and violence that we are drenched in, is it no surprise that we are the way we are? Our outer environment is a reflection of our inner environment.

nothing truly changes in a state of constant change

I agree.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I'd say whatever is outside us is a reflection of ourselves.

there is no difference. when i say "we all" i mean ALL. you, me, that rock outside, one particle in a cloud, the void of space, cannabis herself. you name it, i mean that too is a reflection of the universe. the universe is a reflection of that person.


we all reflect the world outside of us, as the world outside of us is reflecting us.



reality is 2 mirrors facing each other, with no gap for light to escape.

[Stigma420247]

this is a good thread ... iris check out http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ing-flick.html u might find some of the info in this video interesting...

[fenderninja]

^ same, i thoroughly enjoy this and will promptly add to it once im medicated :hippy: