I am an avid fan of rap, although I started out listening to mainstream, I now mostly listen to underground.

I beleive Torog said something about songs who talk about rape and other criminal acts. Who the fuck rapes a woman then talks about it in there songs? They might say something out of anger or to express themselves but wouldn't do it then brag about it in there songs. If your accussing Tupac or any other artist for this, just listen to other types of music and mos tof the sames stuff is in there. It's just most of rap artist talk about there reality and that stuff might be in there reality. Anyways, they always have songs such complementing women and appreciating them for many things. Just as an example you can look up, Tupac has songs for women such as Dear Mama and others that complement them and also ask "Why do we rape our women, Do we hate our womem? He also has a song saying" Since a man can't make one, he has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one." THis is just off the head. There are plenty of songs out there, mostly by the more intelligent rappers though, that say the same things whether mainstream or underground.

I agree with RIP ODB here with his choices on rap artists but I'd liek to also throw in Slug, Murs, Sage Francis, Louis Logic, and some others I can't think of now.

But I also love Nas, Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem(don't know how many times I had his first lp taken away in 4th grade), Big L(so many props to him), BIG, Scarface and so many others.

But I recommend downloading some good underground stuff. Although im only 16 I remember when Eminem, Jay-Z, Nas and Outkast dropped classic albums. Sorry, not sure where I went with this stuff.

-peace