Neon green with Rust spots Pls help

[nuggiespl]

I now think I have a Cal Mag def and proaly iron since they all go hand in hand, And thanks to some fellow members, I thought this thread was dead I also have a post Neon green with rust spots, u can check it out. I started that one cause no-one was helping me in this thread. Let me know what you think, these are a little overwatered but that was yesterday, am going to feed them with cal mag plus and nutes.

Does anyone know the effect of adding cal mag with a tea (benificials) and also Ph. I think if I remember right, you don't want to adjust the ph when adding in Tea cause the ph down will kill the beni's. I am using RO water, Thanks in advance

[stinkyattic]

Did you read the application instructions for superthrive? One drop per gallon. I took a dropper and a scale at my lab and figured out how many drops are in 1 mL and you gave ST at FORTY TIMES the recommended application rate. Nooooooes!!!

Read the flushing sticky at the top of the troubleshooting section and flush to get your soil cleared out and the runoff up to 6.7, then feed with 1/2 strength base fert only, NOTHING ELSE, and let the pots dry out significantly before watering again.

Mixing different media and all kinds of fertilizers causes problems. Just stick with the basics until you have a better sense of what the plants need. You should never use a supplement until you understand WHY you need it and HOW it works.

[Weedhound]

guess I'm not the only one who gets irritated by folks doing things without really thinking them out in advance, hmmmm?

Also noticed that changing the ph fixed the problem and too much crap in the pots was also indeed part of the issue....hmmmm......not a bad guess was it?

Nuggle, what upsets me is someone who obviously has NO experience with growing arguing to someone who has SOME experience with growing. I'm here to help folks.....I think your issue could have been solved quite a while back.....if you were willing to listen but you weren't. THAT's the kind of thing I don't have time or desire for. I want to help people who are willing to learn....not argue about how much they really don't know.

Your plants look much better and I wish you the best of luck with growing. But again, I won't be back .

Good luck.

[nuggiespl]

The instructions say 1/4 teaspoon per gallon or 1ml per gallon for reduceing stress. Or 1 drop per gallon for daily use, I have used it twice in 3 weeks, is that wrong, Should I use the 1 drop daily per gallon, or no.

Does it look like a cal mag def, I have read that people using the Ro water need to add cal mag with every watering, most people say the base nutes will cover this and this what I thought. However the base nutes manufacture base recommened feeding on regular water not RO. My Tap water is 390 so I elected to use Ro.

Weedhound Thanks and sorry for being stubborn, I want to learn but as I said .I will not just take what someone says and run especcialy when said unfamilar with coco, I have read alot and based on the grow bible and other post I have read 6.5 seemed high for a soiless grow, or basically hydro, but I will listen to the almighty stinky attic cause she is the master.

Also stinky will you look at my other post Neon green with rust spots and tell me what you think.

Thanks in advance.

[Weedhound]

I have to agree with you there nuggie....I too believe Stinky is the master.

Good luck.

[stinkyattic]

I'm merging that thread with this one since they are on the same basic set of problems.

Lose the ST entirely. That higher dosage can be applied ONCE and once only- you can't keep at it. You are causing more problems than you are solving with that stuff.

You MUST run calmag on RO water. There's even a sticky about it in hydro because calmag and ro water are major contributors to my carpal tunnel syndrome... :wtf:

It looks like a multi-nute lockout from some combination of N overdose, soil pH, or whatever, and soil pH drops off fast when you aren't running your calmag in your RO water...

[stinkyattic]

Dood.
You're in COCO?!!!!! Oh holy hell, no wonder your calcium is such a problem, if you run coco you have to run a coco nute that has added calcium in it, or calmag. Coco scavenges calcium wicked bad, and leaches out potassium salts if it isn't rinsed right.

You are going to have to flush those plants according to the sticky, if you haven't yet, and start feeding with RO water that has calmag added up to 250ppm and THEN your base nute.
Meanwhile, go grab yourself a bottle of GH Micro and put ~5-10 mL in a quart sprayer with one drop dish soap and do a light foliar mist 1-3x per day until you see some color returning to the leaves.

[Weedhound]

no, only part coco. Part rockwool and/or something else. Also some Fox Farm light warrior.

amazing that a hydrdo grower might know what the symptoms oh ph lockout look like.........

[stinkyattic]

Rockwool bleh. I'd never mix RW and dirt... had some problems in the past doing that.
Light warrior is coco based too I think. Even with some LW in there, if there was raw coco added, it could be causing Ca/K problems.

But Calcium deficiency fo' sho' and pH lockout fo' prob'ly. Or fo' pretty sho'. Or... ow my wrists hurt

[nuggiespl]

Clones were rooted in rockwool I had to cut them out. So as far as ph what do u think 6.5-6.7 a lil high sounded like u just realized I was in coco thanks