Neon green with Rust spots Pls help

[Weedhound]

Look I'm not going to argue with you. They are your "Precious" so you must do what you think is right.

Mixing three mediums with different ph needs doesn't even make sense to me. After googling Light Warrier from Fox Farms I'm even more convinced the issue is ph lockout and if it weren't Sunday I'd call my hydro man and double check. But alas....it is. While it has no real nutes it says nothing about it being "soilless" but coco presents its own issues as well and sometimes has to be pretreated etc ......all the correct roll of dice for ph abnormalities....not to mention some pretty classic photos to boot.

I wish you the best of luck with your growing but I will not be back. Again...I stress that they are YOUR plants.....you must do what you think is best for them.

Good luck.

[nuggiespl]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you but you stated early you are unfamilar with a coco grow, that is what I'm growing in, a 6.5 ph would def cause lock out. I'm here to make friends and find answers, not the other way. I respect your input I see the amount of post you have, so don't take it as an insult. I'm just posting all the info so those more knowledgeable can help.
I just flushed 2 plants and the run off was 6.2, 1 gallon of 5.8 ph water. It kinda bothers me you said you won't be back I don't understand, I really appreciate your help , I am a Newb no doubt about it. Thanks

[nuggiespl]

Thanks guys I really appreciate the help, I used to think there was no comparison between here and Ic based on the knowledge this site had. But now I lean toward the other one. I filled out the form. WH stated he was unfamiliar with coco, then got mad when I didn't follow his advice. Only one person tried to help me, and believe me I greatly appreciate it weedhound, thanks for taking the time. I think I just found a new home where people don't base whether they respond, by the amount of post someone has, or please enlighten me did I just slip through the cracks or was it a dumb question most didn't want to bother with. Sorry If I took this the wrong way or maybe I approached this the wrong way. If I offended anyone then I'm sorry. Like I said in my other post, I'm here to learn and make friends .No question I'm a newb but ya gotta start somewhere, I will gladly post updated pictures if anyone is interested( although I think I figured it out 10 ml is to much for them so over fert). I will say this site is where I did all my research and am grateful to have found it. Thanks.

[nuggiespl]

How long has this problem been going on? 11-7-08
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) Hand watering, Coco, 50 coco, 25 light warrior, 25 pert.
What STRAIN are you growing? HS, JR
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) Clone
What is the age of your plants? 10-16-08 I got 10-27-08
How tall are the plants?12-14 inches
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? VEG
What Technique are you using? Soiless
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) clones were in rockwool
What is the Water temperature? tap temp on cold
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? White
What Nutrient's are you using? How much of each if using multiple? Bio Grow 7ml per gallon
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? orginally 1080ish, mainly cause tap water was 390 out of tap, just got RO system, and ph is perfect with nutes added
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? Ph meter yes
When was your last watering? 1/4 gallon tonight
What is your water temps? room temp
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)NA
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using? 2-600
What is the distance to the canopy? 18 in
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 55
What is the canopy temperature? 71
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)71 pretty constant
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) I'm running a sealed room with 375cfm cooling 2 growzillas, sucks from underneath shed through lights and out attic
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? not really but plants moved
Is your water HARD or SOFT? Hard
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Just started using RO,started at 6.2 Was using tap at 5.8,with a ppm of 390.
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched No
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? yes neem oil 10-27 neemoil, now have Hot shot no pest strips
Are plant's infected with pest's No

Tell me what you think about this root system, I thought pretty good for only 2 weeks veg, I just wished the top looked as good. Also what could be causing this leaf issue, its mainly on the bottom leaves this is a picture of a lower leaf, It's like neon green, with rust looking spots, I think it is probably a high ppm of my water and or chlorine in the water. I just transplanted tuesday, wed, into 3 gallon pots, I wish I had flushed before I transplanted them a lot less water to waste (lessen learned that will go in my notebook I also have a accurate calender of maintance). I watered until I had run off and the Ph was 6.2 and ppm unstrained was 1080. but if you subtract the ppm of water only that should be about right for ferts. Tonight I also mixed in some tea with the feeding, I let them dry out pretty good after the transplant, before watering them. What are your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

[ozzyleven]

Those are rootbound. Transplanting was a good idea.

[Weezard]

Those are rootbound. Transplanting was a good idea.

Aloha Nuggiespl

When you use R/O water be sure to add a tsp. of Cal/mag per gallon.
R/O and distilled will work for a while, then your leaves will look like that.
I was having the same problem when using rainwater in coco.
Thought the nutes would supply enough Calcium and Magnesium.
Nope!
Stinky Attic got me back on track.

Best of luck.
Weezard

[nuggiespl]

Also I have read a lot of different techniques regarding watering, Water till runoff, or water less twice a day, what are your thoughts. Thanks

[Weezard]

Also I have read a lot of different techniques regarding watering, Water till runoff, or water less twice a day, what are your thoughts. Thanks

Hmm, thoughts?
That could take years.

So, I'll jus' try to focus and share a few hydration opinions.

Lazy guy here. I use the "kick-it" method for dirt. (Yes I still have a couple mudfoots).
For a beeg pot just kick it, you can feel and hear if she needs a drink.
For the young-uns, lift.
Once you know what a dry pot weighs you can easily guage when to water.

The amount, really depends on the grow media.
Good drainage? go for runoff.
Bad drainage? Fix that!
Very dry and crusted soil? Shame on ya. Add a couple drops of detergent to break surface tension
Hydrotron? Keep it wet.
Rockwool/coco? Don't soak.

Don't forget to aerate your water just before you pour.
That's how roots "breathe".
Surround a root with air and it will dry and die.
Surround roots with stagnant airless water they will drown, die and rot.
Basically, it's common sense.

You sound like you've done this before:jointsmile:
I've been around for quite a while too.
Been growing since '67, but I still learned plenty from reading the stickys here.
Hint hint, nudge nudge, .

Regards
Weezard

[nuggiespl]

Well thanks for the complement, I have done tons of research but this is actually my first go. Thanks

[d50fan91]

im a little curious to see how they are doing