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03-19-2005, 01:50 AM #36
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Mythology, religions, gods....
Not even close man, The study im talking about was done on 10's of thousands of subjects as I outlined in my posts. Not 344 individuals. It's also more than a 13 year study. It had nothing to do with NDE (near death experience for anyone following me and juggalo's discussion and going WHAT?!). It only had to deal with at minimum 10 mins AFTER brain death, NDE is before Brain death. Although the study you've quoted does raise one question , if the results of the Dutch Scientists are erroneous, that would basically prove telepathy,as I'm sure they could "reach" out with telepathy and pluck the images from everyone else mind, however this would have to be done withan entire hospital full of individuals as the details they "remembered" were associated with their period of "brain death" not any memories they might have had well still "alive". (They had very tight controls and demonstrated by showing several of their "films" they take of a subject, On Discovery Channel, also no one in the study mentioned Satan or any other religious icon). And ALL subjects were brain dead in the study , those that werent brain dead (completely dead then brought back) were excluded from the study as that wasnt what they were looking at (NDE) so they needed complete brain death from their subjects not simply unconsciousness. I'm of the "camp" that NDE's are simply brain reactions. But, that still doesnt have anything to do with what I was talking about.
(also this study claims a "soul" not simply a conscious existence, thats all the study I was talking about proves , not soul's not spirits just that the conscious "mind" of a subject survives after brain death , which is "complete death" NDE's arent brain death related. When the brain completely ceases to function thats brain death. If we were to believe we simply "cease to exist" then after brain death there would never be a "memory" or "sensory input" however its been proven there is. How its done(the sensory input), no idea , once again not covered in the study. All it proves is conciousness after brain death).
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