Mythology, religions, gods....

[naturalmystic]

oh come on, star trek is good stuff.

But i do agree with you, 'aliens' are doing/did what we do to animals in the wild. Only were the animals in the wild. I'm sure they've made personal contact with maybe even our governments of the world. But would you contact a race that would blow you out of the sky at first sight?

[weirdo79]

ok ok , I will admit I like the OLD star trek with the styrofoam bouncing rocks (I laugh uproariously when they bounce off people and they dont go down). And, I've always wondered about one thing that maybe would come to light one day. That whole "roswell incident" if its true(which by empirical evidence and those that "worked" on the crash say that have retired it is). I just wonder if perhaps thats exactly what happened to precipitate a meeting, perhaps we did shoot them down. As the government of any nation would HAVE to cover it up in order to not seem so jumpy on the trigger. For anyone who thinks UFO's and aliens are all a bunch of farcical nonsense I suggest looking up two especially public and convincing events. The Shag Harbour incident and Lights over Phoenix (which was shown on major tv and even had an Air Force captain come out publicly with a NASA spokesperson admitting to alien "artifacts" being found(a week after the incident after no one bought the official "flares" line) CNN runs the coverage every year. I'm surprised more people havent seen it personally.)

[weirdo79]

Oh and the Shag Harbour incident had an entire town as witnesses and no 500 population town either. As well as most(witnesses) being RCMP officers , firemen, soldiers etc. They had thought a plane had gone down so everyone was mobilized to help. My favourite is when people say "we have technology that could have done this" when the incidences specified clearly reject even "cold war" technology or even today's tech, you would have thought they'de have used ONE of these "new technologies" in the following decades(if it was "us") but nope....

[The Green Chronic]

Ever hear of the Sumerians?

They believe in a planet that orbits two solar-systems called Nibiru which is home to two races; the Anu and the Nephillium.
Every 3600 years this celestial body enters our solar system. According to Sumerian mythology the Anu came to earth and created a slave race, humans, by bonding their genetic material with that of homoerectus. The Anu were described as god-like, resembling humans only about twice as large. They used this slave race to mine gold and restore Nibirus atmousphere. After they were through they handed control of Earth over to the humans, but flooded it in attempt to wipe them out.

Nibiru was supposed to return in spring of 2003.

I wasn't going to post in this thread, because my personal beliefs are very controversial and I don't want some rabid christian fundMENTAList shoving christian mythology down my throat. That is until I saw the word "Nephillium" and talk about the ancient sumerian gods. Now things are on a little more familiar turf.

First let me get this out in the open, just so everyone knows. I am a Traditional Satanist, or a Theistic Satanist, whichever term makes you feel more comfortable.

That's to say I do respect and agree with a lot of what Anton Lavey wrote down in his infamous book, The Satanic Bible, but I do not affiliate myself with the Church of Satan and I am by no stretch of the imagination a Lavayan Satanist AKA Modern Satanist.

I do believe that there is an actual being called Satan. I have taken him as my God, and I do worship him. I also believe in the High Princes of Hell, those being Satan, Azazel, Astaroth, Beezulbub. Not exactly in that order of hierarchy.

Now if you visit This site you'll see a more in depth look at my general beliefs, every satanist being different.

But long story short.

I believe that a race of extra terrestrials, the Nephilim, being twice the size of a human, created a hybrid between cromagnon man and Nephilim by impregnating cromagnon women, this is how we have modern humans, google the words "Moon Child" or "Star Child" for some interesting evidence backing my belief.

I also believe that there are "Aliens" or for here after refered to as "Gods" working against humanity, one of the biggest being Jehovah, The Christian God, I won't go on about why I believe this, just let it alone as being one of my beliefs. Jehovah's race is Anu, our enslavers, let's leave it at that. I also belive that Satan, the ruler of the Nephilim created a hybrid species to give us the nessicary intelligence, "magickal" ability (if that's the word you'd like to use) and will to break the bonds the Anu held over us. Upon seeing this Jehovah, ruler of the Anu, sent the flood to wipe the human race out forever. Well all in all, he failed.

But these "Gods" are at constant war, some wish to inhabit earth and want to wipe out the human race, some wish to enslave us, some want to attain the level of the Gods. Thus the splitting of the religions into different sects.

These are just my personal beliefs, I can't prove them, and they can't be disproven, which is the bitch about religion. It's something one can't argue.

[naturalmystic]

But these "Gods" are at constant war, some wish to inhabit earth and want to wipe out the human race, some wish to enslave us, some want to attain the level of the Gods. Thus the splitting of the religions into different sects.

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I've heard theories that there are 'alien' races that are at constant war to either protect us, or to destroy us. I have also read online about a race of 'aliens' that are 'reptilian' that enslaved the race of 'aliens' that started life on earth. In that same article with the reptilian race, I read that the race that the reptilians enslaved, were humanoid type 'aliens' that started life on earth. The way i typed it sounds rather confusing though.

[Encatuse]

You might be interested in a book called The Lucid View, naturalmystic. Parts of it are a bit out there, but if you look at it with paranoid awareness ((an important part of the book)) then it's really a wonderful read.

Keep being confused, it's the only way to live.

[weirdo79]

If you want a lot of books on the "lizard alien" phenomena, look up David Icke although he is in no way one of my faves. (his "coming to the light" was just a little convenient for me) but his sources are pretty interesting I just dont like him persay. All his books are available for download from Torrent sites and on Kazaa Lite Resurrection (although im sure he hates that, they're still there he he )

[naturalmystic]

"The lucid view"


I'll check into that, thanks.

[juggalo420]

heres the official truth on all matters (im always a 100% right so listen up!)-

god doesnt exist in any form, if aliens do exist they have never reached earth it would take too long and the speed of light cant be broken (faster you get to light speed you slow down because you get significantly heavier).

man exists cause we evolved from long a exstinct primate, which itself evolved from a lower life form, this proberly happened a couple times (evolving from lower and lower animals), originally evolving from simple cells and bactaria. bactaria came from natural elements like hydrogen and other shit that under the right conditions formed life, these elements came from space they always existed (time is more or less a human concept), the elements expanded to form stars planets and all life after the big bang, big bang was all matter put in a small space until it finally expanded, before that atoms n' matter just existed forever (time doesnt exist without a sun) and thats how your here today.

you die and you simply wont BE, no afterlife or reincarnation, it'll be like before you where born, remember that? well thats all our futures.

[weirdo79]

Very Concise and well put (I love evolution so im biased of course) But, one thing you might want to rethink is the "dying and ceasing to be" part. A few years ago Dutch scientists in extensive studies about consciousness proved even 20 mins after brain death their is a consciousness still that is active. People who have come back have provided details to events they could not possibly have known unless their "consciousness" and perception were somehow still active. During this period of "brain death" there is no sensory input yet these people could recall things like a surgeon's face who had saved them or a nurses watch etc. All these instances were carefully studied for control groups, so that those who werent "brain dead" the whole time of exposure (ie: the surgeon left or nurse left or exchanged with another so that there could be no possibility logically to conclude that somehow the person wasnt dead at the time they were exposed to these people) were excluded from the results. This study was done by the same group who found that "we" as beings are truly just the electricity in our bodies and the firing of the synapses. It was covered quite extensively in most scientific magazines as well as national geographic(none of which are in anyway attached to religious groups). The study was done over a 20 year period on 10's of thousands of individuals with the same results for all. It's the one area where science and religion agree, there is consciousness after complete brain death and its not limited to the body's location. Also through measuring equipment upon brain death there is a massive amount of electo magnetic energy released/discharged from the body(the same energy that is apparently "us" according to theory). I personally find this rather interesting and If I can find a "link" to a website that covers it I'll post it. Or you can order the journal yourself (the study that was widely accepted by the body of scientists internationally) from any Dutch University as far as I know with mailing costs it should be about 30$ or you can look at back issues of National Geo etc. Well I personally agree with the majority of your post, The hypothesis that aliens couldnt reach here because of the speed of light principle has already been proven false and rapidly science is reconsidering alot of Einstein's theory. Also we already know you can "fold" space that alone puts a dent in the hypothesis they couldn't reach here. There is alot in astrophysics we are constantly reassesing. I will find you a webpage and study as soon as possible to illustrate this for you. As it is quite popular and as they say "all the rage" right now. (I think im getting old....). Don't forget up until a couple decades ago we thought blackholes actually consumed all matter and didnt expel anything. We however know better know (it emits a "maser" as far as astrophysicists can tell everything that goes into a black hole comes out contrary to popular thinking from years ago.) Einstein's work isnt immutable its simply the best we had to go on , at the time.