This is fun. Apparently someone read Obama's Book. Who knew?

[daihashi]

Of course not! But it is interesting that he has written 2 books and what not, and you don't hear much about them. You would think the adoring media that fall all over him would be citing pages like it was the bible. Better wait till after the election though, and then just mandate an entire class to Obama in all government screwwls. For every grade, every year. And make them all eat just pie, all the time, and make everyone have short haircuts too, and....
You get it.

You mean the same media, LA times, that has a copy of a video of Obama at a party for Rashid Khalidi and toasting/praising him after a bunch of anti Israel statements were made over the evening??

LA Times Refuses to Release Tape of Obama Praising Controversial Activist - FOXNews.com Elections

Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama - Los Angeles Times

The LA times endorsed Obama on Oct. 19th; has this video and is choosing to not release it. If that's not bias then I don't know what is..

apparently Sarah Palin's wardrobe is suitable for media coverage and having the information released but another questionable figure in the life of Obama is not.

If there are such differences and disagreements between the two (kalidi and Obama) as Khalidi suggests then why would the video not be released?

[the image reaper]

average liberal voter is an idiot, that can only remember 3-second sound bites, and hasn't read a book since 3rd grade (if they got that far :wtf ... don't confuse them with facts ... they want CHANGE !!! dammit, and they want it NOW !!! ... Moral of the Story: 'be careful what you wish for' ...

[TheNugget]

average liberal voter is an idiot, that can only remember 3-second sound bites, and hasn't read a book since 3rd grade (if they got that far :wtf ... don't confuse them with facts ... they want CHANGE !!! dammit, and they want it NOW !!! ... Moral of the Story: 'be careful what you wish for' ...

The average conservative voter is a corrupt bigot that swallows bullshit whole and doesn't question anything. Look, I can generalize too!

By now, it would take something DRAMATIC to make me not vote for Obama. Is he perfect? Fuck nah, but is McCain good, at all? Fuck no! I won't pretend to know absolutely everything about both candidates, but so far the worst I've seen from Obama pales in comparison to even the best of McCain. I could care less if Obama hasn't mentioned Israel at all, or even if he harbors negative feelings toward them. I hate this whole fawning over Israel shit, like they're gonna help us out EVER.

[happiestmferoutthere]

The average conservative voter is a corrupt bigot that swallows bullshit whole and doesn't question anything. Look, I can generalize too!

Damn, I wish I could rep you again! That was :thumbsup:. Simply because I have different beliefs and thoughts than anyone doesn't make me an idiot. Fucking get real! Generalizing kind of makes you sound idiotic.
I study the issues just as much as any one. I will never, NEVER, vote for someone who wants to take away my right to choice.
And, do tell? Why is FOX the only one jumping on this "terrorist" video? I read the article in LA times. I also knew you guys would run and jump with it. You're running out of time.
Obama had lunch with Palestinian-Americans!! How scandalous! This video was first talked about in April. Now its a issue?

McCain campaign accuses L.A. Times of 'suppressing' Obama video - Los Angeles Times

[daihashi]

Damn, I wish I could rep you again! That was :thumbsup:. Simply because I have different beliefs and thoughts than anyone doesn't make me an idiot. Fucking get real!
I study the issues just as much as any one. I will never, NEVER, vote for someone who wants to take away my right to choice.
And, do tell? Why is FOX the only one jumping on this "terrorist" video? I read the article in LA times. Obama had lunch with Palestinian-Americans!! How scandalous!

McCain campaign accuses L.A. Times of 'suppressing' Obama video - Los Angeles Times

Figures you would want to rep someone feeding off their own emotions. You may find it impressive but I certainly don't. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I'll answer your question.. I don't know why Fox news is the only one jumping on this video and honestly I didn't even hear it from fox news.. I picked it up from the radio while driving into work. I listen for the traffic report and there was a brief mention of it.

So I googled to verify it.. and then cross referenced with the LA times to see if they did indeed have the video and if they were with holding it. The answer was yes they had the video, and yes they were withholding it.

So the question I pose to you is this. If you are a source of news and information... why would you choose to withhold information to your audience especially after you just gave him your endorsement.

People say the media is not biased.. people say the media is not compromised but I would like you to point out one TOUGH question Obama has had to answer about himself.

William Ayers was blown over as though it didn't matter. A man who is a self confessed marxist as of at least 2002. A man who attacked government buildings and put people's lives at risk. Why is the media not covering this? Why is this ok? Would it be ok if Obama had close ties to Timothy Mcveigh?

Obama's two books where he states socialist/marxist philosophies... why does no one ask him to go into detail about this? Why is it that the media seems indifferent about this?

Obama's party with Rashid Khalidi.. why would the new york times refuse to release this tape to the public? Typically when information/data like this is available it is made public. However this has been blown off and even refused to be given. What is there to hide and why do other media sources not go after this?

Obama's connection with slum Lord Tony Rezko; whom Obama defended and helped to get government money to help build his sub standard buildings that often were condemned.. a man who was indicted for his crimes.. a man who made contributions to Obama. Why does no one investigate this deeper? Hell you hardly even heard about it.

Obama's Connection with Jim Johnson who was the head of Fannie Mae during the time of it's accounting scandal. In addition Jim Johnson made over 90 million dollars during the book keeping mishap; later Fannie and Freddie would collapse and now Jim Johnson has been advising the Obama campaign unofficially (he withdrew from the campaign after a mortgage scandal surrounded him).. Why is no one asking these questions? Why is it ok that we ignore this?

Obama's connection with Chris Dodd, #1 receiver of donations from the financial institutions that would later collapse... with Obama being #2. Seems rather peculiar doesn't it? Why is no one investigating this? Why is it ok to ignore it?

Obama's connection to ACORN and their questionable practices. Why is it ok to ignore this? Why does neither ACORN nor Obama catch any flak for this. I could understand if Obama got a free pass but ACORN? Even if it's individuals doing this and not the organization.. as an entity it is their responsibility to ensure that the people they employ are conducting themselves in a legal and mature fashion. What they are doing is far from legal. Why does this not get more news coverage? Why is it ok to ignore this?


I have a much longer list and can go on and on. So I ask you... yes YOU specifically. Why is it ok that the media ignores things like this but it's ok to report on Sarah Palin's wardrobe?

Since you're such a student of the issues I would love to debate this with you. Since you're such a student of the issues why aren't you questioning the media's lack of interest in reporting the issues? Why aren't you questioning the media's inability to ask some genuinely difficult questions?

[8182KSKUSH]

Figures you would want to rep someone feeding off their own emotions. You may find it impressive but I certainly don't. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I'll answer your question.. I don't know why Fox news is the only one jumping on this video and honestly I didn't even hear it from fox news.. I picked it up from the radio while driving into work. I listen for the traffic report and there was a brief mention of it.

So I googled to verify it.. and then cross referenced with the LA times to see if they did indeed have the video and if they were with holding it. The answer was yes they had the video, and yes they were withholding it.

So the question I pose to you is this. If you are a source of news and information... why would you choose to withhold information to your audience especially after you just gave him your endorsement.

People say the media is not biased.. people say the media is not compromised but I would like you to point out one TOUGH question Obama has had to answer about himself.

William Ayers was blown over as though it didn't matter. A man who is a self confessed marxist as of at least 2002. A man who attacked government buildings and put people's lives at risk. Why is the media not covering this? Why is this ok? Would it be ok if Obama had close ties to Timothy Mcveigh?

Obama's two books where he states socialist/marxist philosophies... why does no one ask him to go into detail about this? Why is it that the media seems indifferent about this?

Obama's party with Rashid Khalidi.. why would the new york times refuse to release this tape to the public? Typically when information/data like this is available it is made public. However this has been blown off and even refused to be given. What is there to hide and why do other media sources not go after this?

Obama's connection with slum Lord Tony Rezko; whom Obama defended and helped to get government money to help build his sub standard buildings that often were condemned.. a man who was indicted for his crimes.. a man who made contributions to Obama. Why does no one investigate this deeper? Hell you hardly even heard about it.

Obama's Connection with Jim Johnson who was the head of Fannie Mae during the time of it's accounting scandal. In addition Jim Johnson made over 90 million dollars during the book keeping mishap; later Fannie and Freddie would collapse and now Jim Johnson has been advising the Obama campaign unofficially (he withdrew from the campaign after a mortgage scandal surrounded him).. Why is no one asking these questions? Why is it ok that we ignore this?

Obama's connection with Chris Dodd, #1 receiver of donations from the financial institutions that would later collapse... with Obama being #2. Seems rather peculiar doesn't it? Why is no one investigating this? Why is it ok to ignore it?

Obama's connection to ACORN and their questionable practices. Why is it ok to ignore this? Why does neither ACORN nor Obama catch any flak for this. I could understand if Obama got a free pass but ACORN? Even if it's individuals doing this and not the organization.. as an entity it is their responsibility to ensure that the people they employ are conducting themselves in a legal and mature fashion. What they are doing is far from legal. Why does this not get more news coverage? Why is it ok to ignore this?


I have a much longer list and can go on and on. So I ask you... yes YOU specifically. Why is it ok that the media ignores things like this but it's ok to report on Sarah Palin's wardrobe?

Since you're such a student of the issues I would love to debate this with you. Since you're such a student of the issues why aren't you questioning the media's lack of interest in reporting the issues? Why aren't you questioning the media's inability to ask some genuinely difficult questions?

You sir just saved me alot of typing.

[8182KSKUSH]

I study the issues just as much as any one. I will never, NEVER, vote for someone who wants to take away my right to choice.

REally? WTF?
Since you are so educated, maybe you could enlighten everyone as to how McCain will take away your right to "choose".
For someone that is so passionate about personal freedoms, I fail to see how you justify supporting the candidate that believes the exact opposite.
P.S.
I haven't looked, but I would be highly interested in how many posts were made here saying that Bush was going to overturn Roe vs. Wade?
Drink up! Can anyone say "true believer".

[maladroit]

i fail to see the controversy here

what awful things did rashid khalidi say? i read at the link that he strongly disagrees with obama's support of israel so what is the issue with obama? something smells funny, and i think it's a rotten red herring

Rashid Khalidi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[8182KSKUSH]

i fail to see the controversy here

what awful things did rashid khalidi say? i read at the link that he strongly disagrees with obama's support of israel so what is the issue with obama? something smells funny, and i think it's a rotten red herring

Rashid Khalidi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just a few posts up from yours.

You mean the same media, LA times, that has a copy of a video of Obama at a party for Rashid Khalidi and toasting/praising him after a bunch of anti Israel statements were made over the evening??

Whether you think so or not that is a big deal. Most jewish voters traditionally are thought to support democrats. This is another example of Obama speaking to the crowd, serving up the "flavor of the moment". Just dining it up while people make all kinds of racist remarks, imagine if McCain was at some dinner with KKK leaders etc....and there was a tape of it and there were people making racist jokes about blacks, and he was just smiling and having a good ol' time.
Nah, you are right, it's probably not a big deal. WTF?

[maladroit]

"imagine if McCain was at some dinner with KKK leaders etc....and there was a tape of it and there were people making racist jokes about blacks, and he was just smiling and having a good ol' time."

- mccain said something very similar about how everyone would jump on him if there was a tape of him in a neonazi suit (conveniently forgetting that there are tapes of mccain saying racist things that the media has been sitting on for the entire campaign)...i still haven't seen or heard what was said and what it has to do with obama...jimmy carter, bill clinton, colin powell, and tony blair met personally with the head of the plo and john mccain isn't screaming his head off about that


"a bunch of anti Israel statements were made over the evening"

- exactly what statements were made? is it illegal to criticize israel's government?