If the world could vote...

[apocolips31]

That is the Bradley effect right there.

[dragonrider]

the BBC news channel is reporting results ahead of CNN...i am amazed that mccain has 49% of the popular vote so far (6:49PST)...mccain is doing much better than i thought he would

That is the Bradley effect right there.

Not enough "Bradley effect" to win it for McCain though. They called it for Obama about 4 hours ago. At that point he had over 338 Electoral votes wiht four states not yet called. It was close in the popular vote, but a landslide in the Electoral votes, which is close to what the polls have been saying for a long time --- so the "Bradley effect" was barely in effect at all.

[apocolips31]

Not necessarily true, how do you know it wasn't a combination of the Bradley effect or reverse Bradley effect and they merely canceled each other out. Not to mention how far ahead Obama was in polls and some of those votes swung McCain's way.

[RedLocks]

looks liek it was a landslide victory for McCain in.... Niue? 1 vote lol

[tomm01]

Hm, didnt read the ENTIRE thread, but responding to the why the world hates America thing....

I am Australian and almost every knowledgeable person I know hates America mainly because of Bush.
And also because of all the mass amounts of secrecy and Government cover-ups n whatnot.
I'm not talking about Area 51 and such but the way the Government just tried to hide everything from their people until it finally gets leaked and they come up with some bullshit transparent excuse. The trouble is most Americans (NOT ALL) don't even realise that it's complete bullshit. Example. The Bush Government tried to convince (and succeeded) the American public that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the attacks on 9/11 through clever(?) manipulation.

The fact that most Americans just take whatever the Government says for granted is rather annoying. But it's mainly just the fact that the politicians take for granted that Americans are so gullible.

Another reason is that I have to spell realise with a 'z' instead of an 's' if I don't want underlines all over my work. LOL, jk, but seriously....

Americans think they rule the world, or ARE the world. Again I'm not talking about all of you but a LOT!
We didn't think Obama should be President to ruin your country further lol but you're right that it was partly for our own interests.
WE want this bullshit war to stop!
Whatever America does England and Australia will follow. No matter what it is. Obama seems a lot less inclined towards pointless war and thus we will stop having to put our troops and resources into another countries bullshit.
Of course this is our politicians fault as well, but if America was smarter it wouldn't matter. In other words it's easier to fix one place than every other place.

Also you guys were talking about slaves and all that shit and having to feel guilty about it. Why? It doesn't matter, you didn't do anything, Obama didn't do anything. Why should you have to feel guilty because, in the words of Ben Folds I think 'my great great great great grandad made someones great great great great grandaddy slaves'
Something like that lol.

Anyway, dunno if you can take another reality check but when you come to other countries as tourists, you are FUCKING loud. It just makes you all seem ignorant and oblivious to any other persons existence but yours.

That's enough though, for now. lol

[flyingimam]

Not necessarily true, how do you know it wasn't a combination of the Bradley effect or reverse Bradley effect and they merely canceled each other out. Not to mention how far ahead Obama was in polls and some of those votes swung McCain's way.

I think polls were quite accurate this time around, obama won by more than 5% leverage in popular vote, but i give it to ya about bradley effect

and about polls on electoral votes, well obama beat the most optimistic electoral vote poll (RCP) by almost 30 votes!!! 311 was the number on their site few days b4 the election, reduced to 278 solid on election eve, he won like 340

EDIT: make that 350 and 53% to 46% on popular vote, lets see 7% ahead. that would confirm a 9-10% leverage in polls with 2-3% error margin on most polls

[apocolips31]

MOST Americans are gullible and stupid? MOST Americans don't know what is going on and only think of themselves? Well MOST Americans just voted for Obama. Bet you feel dumb right about now....